Just for fun: math brain teaser

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical brain teaser involving a sequence of equations where participants explore different interpretations and solutions. The focus is on identifying a consistent rule or pattern that governs the results of the equations presented.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a rule: a+b = a+a*b, leading to results like 1+1*4=5 and 2+2*5=12.
  • Another participant claims to arrive at the answer 201, suggesting a different interpretation of the equations.
  • Multiple participants report arriving at the answer 96, indicating that this might be a common solution based on their methods.
  • One participant notes that there is no unique solution and suggests that there are infinitely many possibilities for constructing a building rule.
  • Another participant presents three alternative rules that also lead to the answer 96, indicating a shared pattern among their approaches.
  • A participant provides a breakdown of the equations in different bases, which leads to the answer 201, raising questions about the intended interpretation of the problem.
  • One participant suggests an answer of 40, explaining their reasoning through a cumulative approach to the equations.

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Participants express differing answers, with some agreeing on 96 as a solution while others propose 201 or 40. The discussion reveals multiple competing views and interpretations, and no consensus is reached on a single correct answer.

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The discussion highlights the ambiguity in the problem statement, as participants utilize various assumptions and interpretations to derive their answers. The lack of a unique solution is emphasized, with different mathematical rules leading to different results.

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Just for fun, let me know if I am
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My answer looks like this (translating from my pen+paper notepad):
a+b = a+a*b

1+1*4=5

2+2*5=12

3+3*6=21

8+8*11=96

my friend got 40, which I can also see. I am not sure who is correct. Please let me know and let’s put our heads together and have fun.
 
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I get ##201##
 
I had 96, too, but there is no unique solution. In fact, there are infinitely many possibilities to construct a building rule.
 
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fresh_42 said:
I had 96, too, but there is no unique solution. In fact, there are infinitely many possibilities to construct a building rule.

Hello my friend, and thanks for the reply. How did you arrive at 96, was it similar to my method?
 
whig4life said:
Hello my friend, and thanks for the reply. How did you arrive at 96, was it similar to my method?
It was exactly your approach. Appeared to be the easiest way.
 
whig4life said:
Summary:: Just for fun, let me know if I am

My answer looks like this (translating from my pen+paper notepad):
a+b = a+a*b
That seems the most obvious solution, and one that matches the first three examples.
 
Three other rules that match, using the common b-a=3 in all examples:
##a \oplus b = ab+b-3##
##a \oplus b = a^2+4a##
##a \oplus b = b^2-2b-3##

As the open problem has b-a=3, too, all these rules lead to 96.
 
$$\begin{align}
1 + 4 &= 5_{10} = 5_6 \\
2 + 5 &= 7_{10} = 12_5 \\
3 + 6 &= 9_{10} = 21_4 \\
8 + 11 &= 19_{10} = 201_3
\end{align}$$
What answer do you want?
 
40
if
1 + 4 = 5
2 + 5 = 12 [12=5+2+5]
3 + 6 = 21 [21=12+3+6]
8 + 11 = 40 [40=21+8+11]
 

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