Key fob only works on battery and not power supply. What?

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The key fob operates correctly with a CR2032 battery but fails to function when powered by an external power supply, even when the voltage is confirmed at 6V. The issue arises due to the power supply's inability to provide sufficient current peaks required for transmission, particularly at the high frequency of 432MHz. Adding a capacitor, specifically a 100µF tantalum or ceramic capacitor, to the battery terminals is recommended to buffer the power supply and support the necessary current demands. Users have confirmed that the battery acts as an essential component for the fob's antenna resonance, which is disrupted when using a power supply.

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  • #31
rsk said:
I assume that was what made the made it fail as an electromagnet.
I think it more likely for the electromagnets that the batteries were just more capable to produce high currents for short time intervals. Batteries are pretty impressive and an electromagnet is a current-hungry device. The half-wave sag will become more pronounced at high current too.
 
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  • #32
True, school power packs often state 1A max and flip off pretty quickly.
 
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  • #33
thatsmessedup said:
Gave it a try with a 100[uF] tantalum capacitor on the terminals. Not a single blip from the HackRF.
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When you remove the battery does the +ve battery terminal short the power supply by contacting the -ve terminal on the pcb? Especially if you have it the other way up to press the buttons. Try replacing the battery with cardboard when on the power supply.
 
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CWatters said:
When you remove the battery does the +ve battery terminal short the power supply by contacting the -ve terminal on the pcb? Especially if you have it the other way up to press the buttons. Try replacing the battery with cardboard when on the power supply.
The LED lights when the button is pushed.
 

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