How to reproduce a battery with a power supply

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on the challenges of powering a spherical neodymium magnet ball that operates like a DC motor. Users have successfully powered the ball with various alkaline batteries, including AA, 9V, and 6V camping lantern batteries, but face issues with higher voltage sources like 12V lead acid batteries, which cause sparks. To avoid the expense of disposable batteries, the user seeks a wall socket adapter that can convert 120V AC to low voltage with high current, specifically limited to 6.5 amps for compatibility with a pulse width modulator. Recommendations include using a 12V DC lab power supply with adjustable current limits for optimal performance.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of DC motor principles and operation
  • Familiarity with pulse width modulation (PWM) techniques
  • Knowledge of power supply specifications, including voltage and current ratings
  • Basic electrical safety and current limiting practices
NEXT STEPS
  • Research 12V DC lab power supplies with adjustable current limits
  • Explore the functionality and setup of pulse width modulators
  • Learn about current limiting techniques to prevent overheating and sparking
  • Investigate the specifications and applications of electroplating power supplies
USEFUL FOR

This discussion is beneficial for hobbyists, electrical engineers, and makers interested in experimental motor applications, power supply configurations, and optimizing high-current low-voltage systems.

cougarrcsnva
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
I am expermenting with a sperical metallic neodymium magnet ball that spins like a DC motor when I hook up a + or - charge up to the north or south pole of the ball and then hook up the other charge to the equator of the ball. I have only used alkaline batteries and it works with a AA 1.5 volt battery, a 9 volt battery, and a 6 volt camping lantern battery. It shoots sparks if I try to hook up a 12 volt lead acid battery so I can't use that. I also tried 3 volt, 6 volt, and 12 volt cell phone chargers with amp ratings varying from 300 to 1,500 mA but these will not spin the ball because of the low current. As the balls spins faster it eats up the battery quickly and the battery gets hot. I want to spin the ball but am tired of wasting my money on dead batteries so I need a wall socket adapter that I can plug into my 120 volt AC house current and invert it down to a low voltage, but a high amperage and therefore high current. I was told by someone that I might be able to use a car battery charger or I could buy an electroplating power supply so that I can have low volts but high current. Basically the ball requires a high current flow. Also, whatever power supply system I buy, I also need that to be limited to 6.5 amps, because I will be hooking up that power supply to a separate pulse width modulator that can only handle 6.5 amps maximum. I would then hook up the pulse width modulator to the ball to spin it. Then I would be able to spin the ball as fast or as slow as I want with the turn of a knob and also won't be wasting my money on buying batteries. I have a few questions. How does the ball spin from such a small battery and is the voltage going down or the amperage going up as it speeds up? The ball will spin like 10,000 rpm's if the current continues to flow through it so that is why I am using a pulse width modulator to slow it down. Would I have to gradually increase the current from whatever power supply I buy or could I hook it directly to the ball like I do with the battery? Any help would be very much appreciated. Does anyone have any suggestions on what kind of power supply I should buy to get the exact same effect as preferably a 6 volt camping lantern battery? Thanks
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
cougarrcsnva said:
I am expermenting with a sperical metallic neodymium magnet ball that spins like a DC motor when I hook up a + or - charge up to the north or south pole of the ball and then hook up the other charge to the equator of the ball. I have only used alkaline batteries and it works with a AA 1.5 volt battery, a 9 volt battery, and a 6 volt camping lantern battery. It shoots sparks if I try to hook up a 12 volt lead acid battery so I can't use that. I also tried 3 volt, 6 volt, and 12 volt cell phone chargers with amp ratings varying from 300 to 1,500 mA but these will not spin the ball because of the low current. As the balls spins faster it eats up the battery quickly and the battery gets hot. I want to spin the ball but am tired of wasting my money on dead batteries so I need a wall socket adapter that I can plug into my 120 volt AC house current and invert it down to a low voltage, but a high amperage and therefore high current. I was told by someone that I might be able to use a car battery charger or I could buy an electroplating power supply so that I can have low volts but high current. Basically the ball requires a high current flow. Also, whatever power supply system I buy, I also need that to be limited to 6.5 amps, because I will be hooking up that power supply to a separate pulse width modulator that can only handle 6.5 amps maximum. I would then hook up the pulse width modulator to the ball to spin it. Then I would be able to spin the ball as fast or as slow as I want with the turn of a knob and also won't be wasting my money on buying batteries. I have a few questions. How does the ball spin from such a small battery and is the voltage going down or the amperage going up as it speeds up? The ball will spin like 10,000 rpm's if the current continues to flow through it so that is why I am using a pulse width modulator to slow it down. Would I have to gradually increase the current from whatever power supply I buy or could I hook it directly to the ball like I do with the battery? Any help would be very much appreciated. Does anyone have any suggestions on what kind of power supply I should buy to get the exact same effect as preferably a 6 volt camping lantern battery? Thanks

Welcome to the PF>

Could you post a link to something that shows the ball magnet, and how you are hooking it up? You need some form of current limiting in the hookup -- you shouldn't just be shorting the outputs of batteries (as you have seen with the sparks and hot batteries).

Sounds like you should look for a 12Vdc lab power supply that can output something like 5A. Maybe do a search on e-Bay to see what you can find. They will generally have a current limit adjustment knob, so you can experiment with setting that.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
3K
  • · Replies 36 ·
2
Replies
36
Views
5K
Replies
7
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 32 ·
2
Replies
32
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K