Kinematics and dynamic circular motion of conical pendulum

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The discussion focuses on solving a homework problem related to the kinematics and dynamics of a conical pendulum, specifically finding the period using variables such as rope length (L), radius (R), mass (M), and gravity (G). The user attempts to derive the formula for the period (T) and presents their calculations, leading to a formula involving the square root of L and R. Questions arise regarding the direction of centripetal force, which is clarified as pointing towards the center of the circular path. Overall, the user receives confirmation that their solution is correct and gains a better understanding of centripetal force.
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Homework Statement


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find the period with only using L (for the long of the rope), R (for the radius), M (for the mass), and G (for the gravity)

Homework Equations


V=ωR
Fcentripetal = ##\frac {MV^2} {R}##
Fgravity = MG
phytagoras
basic trigonometry

The Attempt at a Solution


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i have tried to do it this way
##x=\sqrt {L^2 - R^2}##
##F_1=F_2##
##MG Cos (θ) = \frac {MV^2} {R} Cos (90-θ) ##
##\frac {MGR} {L} = \frac{MV^2 \sqrt {L^2 - R^2}} {RL}##
##\frac {MGR} {L} = \frac{Mω^2 R^2 \sqrt {L^2 - R^2}} {RL}##
##\frac {MGR} {L} = \frac{M4π^2 R^2 \sqrt {L^2 - R^2}} {RLT^2}##
##T^2 = \frac{4π^2 \sqrt {L^2 - R^2}} {G}##
##T = \sqrt {\frac{4π^2 \sqrt {L^2 - R^2}} {G}}##
am i right?
some of my friend have i different answer from me, actually, i don't really know where is the centripetal force direction

can someone explain me what is centripetal force actually with answering this question
(sorry for bad english)
 
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Hi,
I think your solution is correct.
Centripetal acceleration is acceleration which makes something 'go in a circle' - not straight forward. It points toward the centre of the circle.
Multiplied with the mass, this gives the 'centripetal force'.
Hope this helped.
 
Replusz said:
Hi,
I think your solution is correct.
Centripetal acceleration is acceleration which makes something 'go in a circle' - not straight forward. It points toward the centre of the circle.
Multiplied with the mass, this gives the 'centripetal force'.
Hope this helped.
ok, thank you very much
 
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