Kinetic and potential energies of a harmonic oscillator

In summary, the problem statement asks if the expectation values for the kinetic and potential energies are each E/2 in the quantum case. The answer is yes, which means that the energies are the same.
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Von Neumann
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Problem:

In a harmonic oscillator

[itex]\left\langle V \right\rangle[/itex][itex]=\left\langle K \right\rangle=\frac{E_{0}}{2}[/itex]

How does this result compare with the classical values of K and V?

Solution:

For a classical harmonic oscillator

V=1/2kx^2
K=1/2mv^2

I don't really know where to begin. Is it safe to say that quantum oscillator must depend on the [itex]average[/itex] values of the kinetic and potential energies? Also, the values of the energies in the classical system are conserved in such a way to conserve total mechanical energy.
 
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Is the problem statement telling you that the expectation values for the kinetic and potential energies are each E/2 in the quantum case?

If so then perhaps it wants you to calculate the average values in the classical case and show that they're the same.
 
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Pagan Harpoon said:
Is the problem statement telling you that the expectation values for the kinetic and potential energies are each E/2 in the quantum case?

If so then perhaps it wants you to calculate the average values in the classical case and show that they're the same.

Oh yes, I've already done that. I calculated <U> and <K> separately.
 
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Then haven't you already solved the problem? If you have the expectation values for the kinetic and potential energies in both the classical and quantum cases, then you can compare them and see that they are the same.

Is the question asking you for something more?
 
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The question is simply asking to compare the expectation values <V> and <K> of the quantum harmonic oscillator (given above) with the classical values of V and K.
 
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If I were faced with that question, I would calculate the average values for V and K in the classical case (which you have done) and then comment that they are the same as the expectation values in the quantum case - that's how they compare, they're the same.

What more do you want to do?
 

1. What is a harmonic oscillator?

A harmonic oscillator is a physical system that exhibits oscillatory motion around a stable equilibrium point. It is characterized by a restoring force that is directly proportional to the displacement from the equilibrium point.

2. What is kinetic energy in a harmonic oscillator?

Kinetic energy in a harmonic oscillator refers to the energy of motion possessed by the system. It is directly proportional to the square of the velocity and is at its maximum when the displacement from equilibrium is zero.

3. What is potential energy in a harmonic oscillator?

Potential energy in a harmonic oscillator refers to the energy stored in the system due to its position relative to the equilibrium point. It is directly proportional to the square of the displacement and is at its maximum when the velocity is zero.

4. How are kinetic and potential energies related in a harmonic oscillator?

In a harmonic oscillator, the total energy is the sum of the kinetic and potential energies. As the kinetic energy increases, the potential energy decreases and vice versa. This results in a constant total energy for the system.

5. How do the kinetic and potential energies change as the oscillator oscillates?

As the oscillator oscillates, the kinetic energy is at its maximum when the displacement is zero and decreases as the displacement increases. On the other hand, the potential energy is at its maximum when the displacement is at its maximum and decreases as the displacement decreases. This results in a continuous exchange of energy between kinetic and potential forms.

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