Kinetic and Potential Energy on Ramps

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The discussion focuses on solving a physics problem involving kinetic and potential energy on an inclined ramp at a 30-degree angle. The user attempts to calculate the distance an object travels up the ramp before stopping, accounting for friction. Key equations include the work-energy principle (W = F(d)), gravitational potential energy (Eg = mgh), and kinetic energy (Ek = 1/2(mv^2)). The solution requires subtracting the work done against friction from the initial kinetic energy and using trigonometric functions to determine the distance along the ramp.

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  • Understanding of kinetic energy (Ek) and potential energy (Eg)
  • Familiarity with the work-energy principle (W = F(d))
  • Basic trigonometry, specifically relating to right triangles
  • Knowledge of forces, including friction and their impact on motion
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  • Study the work-energy principle in detail, focusing on applications involving friction
  • Learn how to apply trigonometric functions to solve problems involving inclined planes
  • Explore the concept of energy conservation in mechanical systems
  • Review examples of similar physics problems involving ramps and energy transformations
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This discussion is beneficial for physics students, educators, and anyone interested in understanding the principles of energy conservation and motion on inclined planes.

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Homework Statement



I don't want to tell the problem I just want to know how to solve it.
There is a mass and a velocity and the ramp is inclined let's say 30 degrees.
The object is going up the ramp with a force of friction opposing it. Find the distance the object travels before stopping.

Homework Equations



W = F (d)
Eg = mgh
Ek = 1/2(mv^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


let m = 5
let v = 10


Ek = 1/2(5(10^2))
= 250 J

W = 250 J
250J = 4(d) ?
62.5 = d ?


Something wrong I am doing, all help is gratefully apppreciated.
 
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Part of the kinetic energy is lost due to friction, and part is converted to gravitational potential energy.
Ef - Ei = -Fd = mgh - (1/2)mv^2
 
Yes you did forget to subtract the frictional work from the original kinetic energy but once you find the vertical height the object rises you have to use the given angle to find how far up the ramp it will go.
 
Yes you do subtract and then set the answer equal to mgh, the potential energy and then solve for the vertical height. But this isn't the answer to the question. The object moves up a ramp, not straight up so you have to draw the triangle showing the vertical height which you now know, the angle the ramp makes with the horizontal, which you given and then use the appropriate trig function to solve for the ramp which is the hypotenuse of the triangle.
 

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