Kinetic friction - finding time

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving kinetic friction and motion on an inclined plane. The scenario describes a skier pushing off with an initial velocity and experiencing deceleration due to friction as they glide down a slope.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the skier, including gravitational force and kinetic friction. There is an exploration of the correct application of the equations of motion and the impact of friction on acceleration. Questions arise regarding the sign convention for acceleration and the correct formulation of the forces involved.

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The discussion is active, with participants seeking clarification on the correct approach to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the sign convention for acceleration and the formulation of forces, but there is no explicit consensus on the final approach yet.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the direction of forces and the impact of friction on the skier's motion. There is an acknowledgment of varying levels of familiarity with the concepts involved.

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Hi,

I'm not sure if I did this right but here is the word problem and the work I've done. If I made any errors, i'd love to know about them!

A sight seen on many bunny hills across Ontario is young skiers pushing on ski poles and gliding down a slope until they come to rest. Observing from a distance, you note a young person (approximately 25 kg) pushing off with the ski poles to give herself an initial velocity of 3.5 m/s. If the inclination of the hill is 5.0 degrees and the coefficient of kinetic friction for the skis on dry snow is 0.20, calculate

a) the time taken for the skier to come to a stop

For a:

Fa = Fgh + Ff
= Fg sin 5 (degrees) + ukFn


Fn = Fg cos 5 (degrees)
= mg cos 5 (degrees)

Fa = Fg sin 5(degrees) + ukmg cos 5 (degrees)
= mg sin 5(degrees) + ukmg cos 5(degrees)
= (25kg) (9.8m/s^2)(0.08716) + (0.20)(25kg)(9.8m/s^2)(0.9962)
= 70N

F = ma
a = 70N / 25kg
= 2.8 m/s^2


delta t = (Vf - Vi) / a
= (0 - 3.5m/s) / 2.8 m/s^2
= 1.25s

The time for the skier to come to a stop is 1.25 seconds.
 
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inner08 said:
a) the time taken for the skier to come to a stop

For a:

Fa = Fgh + Ff
= Fg sin 5 (degrees) + ukFn
Realize that the kinetic friction opposes the skier's motion.
 
Oh sorry..i'm still trying to get the hang of all of this. Its been a while since I did some physics.

So since the kinetic friction opposes the skier's motion, I would use the following formula: Fa = Fg sin 5 (degrees) - ukFn? Then I would just plug in the values like I did right?
 
Yes. Realize that the acceleration--given your choice of sign convention--must be negative: opposite to the skier's direction of motion. Otherwise, the skier would speed up instead of slow down.
 

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