Klein-Gordon eqn: why dismiss messages at phase velocity

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The discussion centers on the Klein-Gordon (KG) equation and its implications for relativistic causality, particularly concerning superluminal phase velocities. Participants argue that while signals cannot travel at phase velocity, they can influence spacelike-separated events through group velocities. The conversation highlights the necessity of proving that contributions from various wave components cancel out at spacelike intervals, referencing the Green function's properties. The mathematical framework includes the massless KG equation and the role of Fourier transforms in analyzing wave behavior.

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  • #31
vanhees71 said:
Here Sommerfeld's argument cannot be applied ...
It would be nice if you could present details of an example were the Sommerfeld's argument can be applied.
 
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  • #32
Avodyne said:
I continue to claim that the inapplicability of Sommerfeld's argument is due to the form of the KG dispersion relation (with branch points on the real axis), and not due to the singular initial condition.
I'm not sure what exactly is the Sommerfeld's argument, but there is a very general proof in
A. Bers, R. Fox, C.G. Kuper and S.G. Lipson,
a chapter in the book C.G. Kuper and A. Peres (eds), "Relativity and Gravitation" (Gordon and Breach, 1971)
for which branch points on the real axis are not a problem. The contour of integration over frequency avoids all singularities on the real axis.
 
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  • #33
Demystifier said:
@vanhees71, have you noticed that your proof in #28 is almost identical to my proof in #21?
Argh, I've not seen this posting. It's indeed identical. Sorry for that.
 

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