Klein-Gordon eqn: why dismiss messages at phase velocity

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The discussion centers on the Klein-Gordon (KG) equation and the implications of its superluminal phase velocity on relativistic causality. Participants debate whether signals can travel faster than light, emphasizing that while phase velocity can exceed light speed, actual signal propagation occurs at group velocity, which adheres to causality. A key point is that disturbances in a KG field, initiated by a delta function, do not allow for observable effects at spacelike intervals, as the contributions from various wave components cancel out. The conversation also touches on the mathematical foundations of these principles, referencing Green's functions and the necessity of causal solutions. Ultimately, the consensus is that while superluminal phase velocities exist mathematically, they do not translate into physical signal transmission beyond light speed.
  • #31
vanhees71 said:
Here Sommerfeld's argument cannot be applied ...
It would be nice if you could present details of an example were the Sommerfeld's argument can be applied.
 
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  • #32
Avodyne said:
I continue to claim that the inapplicability of Sommerfeld's argument is due to the form of the KG dispersion relation (with branch points on the real axis), and not due to the singular initial condition.
I'm not sure what exactly is the Sommerfeld's argument, but there is a very general proof in
A. Bers, R. Fox, C.G. Kuper and S.G. Lipson,
a chapter in the book C.G. Kuper and A. Peres (eds), "Relativity and Gravitation" (Gordon and Breach, 1971)
for which branch points on the real axis are not a problem. The contour of integration over frequency avoids all singularities on the real axis.
 
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  • #33
Demystifier said:
@vanhees71, have you noticed that your proof in #28 is almost identical to my proof in #21?
Argh, I've not seen this posting. It's indeed identical. Sorry for that.
 

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