Kp problem with total pressure given

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The discussion revolves around a chemical equilibrium problem involving the reaction of PCl5, PCl, and Cl2, specifically focusing on calculating the initial pressure of PCl5 given the total pressure at equilibrium and the equilibrium constant Kp. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and application of ICE tables in the context of chemical equilibria.

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  • One participant presents the equilibrium reaction and the known values, expressing difficulty in starting the problem.
  • Another participant suggests using ICE tables and stoichiometry to relate the amounts of substances at equilibrium to the total pressure and Kp.
  • A different participant notes that without initial amounts, it is challenging to find the necessary values for the ICE table.
  • One reply indicates that two variables can be used: x for the amount that reacted and y for the initial amount of PCl5, but emphasizes that the information provided is insufficient to solve the problem directly.

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Participants generally agree that ICE tables are relevant to the problem, but there is disagreement regarding the sufficiency of the provided information to arrive at a solution. Multiple competing views on how to approach the problem remain unresolved.

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Participants highlight the limitation of having only one equation with two unknowns, indicating a need for additional information to solve the problem.

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For the equilibrium shown below, Kp = 0.20 at 298K
PCl5(g) <--> PCl (g) + Cl2 (g)
A certain amount of PCl5 is added to a 1.0-L flask. When equilibrium is reached, the total pressure in the flask is 3.00atm. What is the initial pressure of PCl5 in the flask?

If someone could point me in the right direction I'm having extreme difficulty even starting the problem, in class we haven't gone over anything like this
Thank you
 
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Do you know how to use ICE tables?

Basically use stoichiometry of the raction to combine amounts of the substances present at equilibrium with total amount and Kp.

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we have done ICE tables but for this reaction none of the initials are given how would I find them with the given information?
 
You will have two variables - x (as usually in ICE tables) that refers to the amount of substances that reacted, and y - which is initial amount of PCl5. Everything else is initially at 0.

Trick is - this is not enough information to solve, but amounts of substance - when combined with known volume, temperature and pressure - will give you second equation. That means two equations in two unknowns.

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