Lagrang multipliers to find max and min

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The problem involves finding the maximum and minimum temperatures on a metal plate described by the function T(x, y) = 4x² - 4xy + y², constrained to a circle of radius 5 centered at the origin using Lagrange multipliers.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Lagrange multipliers, including the gradients of the temperature function and the constraint. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the original constraint and the correctness of critical points derived from substituting values into the constraint equation.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using the original constraint in conjunction with the equations derived. There is ongoing verification of calculations and critical points, with differing views on the correctness of results obtained so far.

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Participants are navigating through the implications of the constraint and the calculations involved in finding critical points, with some expressing confusion about the relationship between the temperature function and the constraint.

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Homework Statement



The temperature at a point (x, y) on a metal plate is T(x, y) = 4x^2 − 4xy + y^2 .
An ant, walking on the plate, traverses a circle of radius 5 centered at the origin.
Using the method of Lagrange multipliers, find the highest and lowest
temperatures encountered by the ant.


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T(x,y) = 4x^2 − 4xy + y^2
gradient of T = (8x - 4y)i + (2y - 4x)j

g(x,y) = x^2 + y^2 = 5^2
gradient of g = (2x)i + (2y)j

gradient of T = (lambda)gradient of g ----> lambda=#

8x - 4y = #2x ---->1
2y - 4x = #2y ---->2

# = 4-4y = 1-4x

what am i going to do next?:confused:
 
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haven't checked your work, but notice you also have the original constraint, use that with the equation that you found
 
lanedance said:
haven't checked your work, but notice you also have the original constraint, use that with the equation that you found

what is the meaning of original constraint?
 
naspek said:
what is the meaning of original constraint?

you have a function to optimise T(x, y) = 4x^2 − 4xy + y^2, against a given constraint x^2 + y^2 = 5^2
 
if i solved the previous equation, i get, x=(1/4)y
 
i've got max= 45 and min=5..
am i done it right?
 

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Yes, what you have done so far is correct. But that certainly does NOT give "max= 45 and min=5"!
 
ok...
i've checked my calculation already...
when y = 2x,
i substitute into x^2+y^2=25
i got x=+-(5)^1/2

when x=-2y,
i substitute into x^2+y^2=25
i got y= +-(5)^1/2

so.. i got my critical points..
---> [(5^1/2) , (5^1/2)]
---> [(5^1/2) , -(5^1/2)]
---> [-(5^1/2) , (5^1/2)]
---> [-(5^1/2) , -(5^1/2)]

my critical points are correct?:rolleyes:
 

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