Lagrangian equation for unconstrained motion

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Homework Statement


Write down the Lagrangian for a one-dimensional particle moving along the x-axis and subject to a force: F=-kx (with k positive). Find the Lagrange equation of motion and solve it.


Homework Equations


Lagrange: L=T-U (kinetic energy - potential energy)


The Attempt at a Solution


All i really need help with is finding the potential energy in this problem. I believe that the kinetic energy is T=(1/2)*m*x', where x' is d/dt(x). I don't understand how to get the potential energy out of that force. Please help, thank you.
 
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The force equation looks like that of a spring. But as far as I can remember, you go from potential energy to force by multiplying the force by the distance. This problem just seems weird to me.
 
heycoa said:
The force equation looks like that of a spring.

Yes. What is the potential energy for a spring?

heycoa said:
But as far as I can remember, you go from potential energy to force by multiplying the force by the distance.

No, it is the other way around, and also the infinitesimal version.

Do have a textbook that you can read?
 
heycoa said:

Homework Statement


Write down the Lagrangian for a one-dimensional particle moving along the x-axis and subject to a force: F=-kx (with k positive). Find the Lagrange equation of motion and solve it.

Homework Equations


Lagrange: L=T-U (kinetic energy - potential energy)

The Attempt at a Solution


All i really need help with is finding the potential energy in this problem. I believe that the kinetic energy is T=(1/2)*m*x', where x' is d/dt(x). I don't understand how to get the potential energy out of that force. Please help, thank you.

I'm currently working on the exact same question, and using : $$-\frac{\partial U}{\partial x} = F$$ I integrated ##F=-kx## and got : $$T= \frac{1}{2}m\dot{x}^{2},U = kx^{2}$$

Is this correct?
Is T=(1/2)mv^2 always what you substitute in for a simple kinematics question?
 
vela said:
No, that's not correct. The integral of ##x## is ##\frac 12 x^2##.
Thank you for the correction, I was able to get the problem right :)