Lagrangian of particle moving on a sphere

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The discussion focuses on determining the optimal shape of a tunnel drilled through the Moon to minimize travel time between two surface points, assuming a spherical and homogeneous Moon. The solution involves using the Lagrangian mechanics framework, specifically the Euler-Lagrangian equation, defined as ∂L/∂q = (d/dt)(∂L/∂{dq/dt}). The hint provided indicates that the shape of the tunnel is a hypercycloid, with the equations for the hypercycloid given as x(θ) and y(θ). The discussion emphasizes the need to set up an integral to compute travel time for an arbitrary path to apply the Euler-Lagrange equations effectively.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Lagrangian mechanics, specifically the Lagrangian function L = T - U
  • Familiarity with the Euler-Lagrangian equation
  • Knowledge of polar coordinates and their application in physics
  • Basic concepts of calculus, particularly integration for travel time calculations
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  • Study the derivation and application of the Euler-Lagrangian equation in classical mechanics
  • Learn about hypercycloids and their geometric properties
  • Explore the method of setting up integrals for calculating travel time in physics problems
  • Investigate the implications of gravitational forces on motion in spherical coordinates
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This discussion is beneficial for physics students, particularly those studying classical mechanics, as well as mathematicians interested in optimization problems involving curves and integrals.

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Homework Statement


Find the shape of a tunnel drilled through the Moon such that the travel time between two points on the surface of the Moon under the force of gravity is minimized. Assume the Moon is spherical and homogeneous.

Hint: Prove that the shape is the hypercycloid

x(θ) = (R - r)cos[(R/r)θ] + rcos[{(R-r)/R}θ]
y(θ) = (R - r)sin[(R/r)θ] - rsin[{(R-r)/R}θ]


Homework Equations


L = T - U

Euler-Lagrangian equation: ∂L/∂q = (d/dt)(∂L/∂{dq/dt})

The Attempt at a Solution


Hi, here's what I've done so far:

L = T - U
= m/2(v_x^2 + v_y^2 + v_z^2) - mgz

Suppose the moon is a sphere centered at the point a on the z (vertical) axis. Suppose particle is positioned at top of moon (i.e. (0,0,2a)

Then L = m/2(v_x^2 + v_y^2 + v_z^2) - 2mga

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But where do I go from here? Is this even correct? The hint seems to suggest I should be converting to polar coordinates at some point, but how can I do this when I don't know what z is? How do I bring the travel-in-least-time aspect into it?

Please point me in the right direction!

Thanks for any help.
 
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I haven't attempted it, but notice polar coordinates are the natural choice, as gravity acts radially

so you need to start with 2 points on the surface of the moon, separated say by an angle

You can bring the travel time into it by setting up an integral that computes the travel time for an arbitrary path, say f = r(\theta). The integrand will be the function you use in your Euler Lagrange equations, to find the function f which minimises the integral
 

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