Laplace equation for parallel plate condersers

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The discussion revolves around the application of Laplace's equation in the context of a parallel plate condenser system in electrostatics. The original poster attempts to find a solution that satisfies specific boundary conditions related to the potentials of the plates.

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  • Participants discuss the original poster's proposed solution involving hyperbolic functions and question its validity based on boundary conditions. There is a suggestion that the potential should be a linear function of y, leading to a discussion about the implications of symmetry and the nature of the electric field near the edges of the plates.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the mathematical form of the solution, but there is no consensus on the approach due to the complexity of the problem and the acknowledgment that it may not have an analytical solution.

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There is a mention of the limitations of the model, particularly regarding the assumption of infinite plates and the behavior of the electric field near the edges. The original poster's boundary conditions are also under scrutiny.

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I've recently started studying Laplace's equation and it's solution under various simple circumstances in electrostatics. I tried to solve the equation for a parallel plate condenser system, but I couldn't meet the boundary conditions. I had two plates, one placed on xz plane at y=0 (with potential = 0), second parallel to it, at y=d (with potential [itex]V_0[/itex]). I placed them such that they're symmetrical in x and z, i.e., y-axis crosses midpoints of plates; therefore the potential should be an even function of x and z. Noting that [itex]V(0,0,0) = 0[/itex] I wrote the solution:

[tex]A\cosh(kx) \cosh(lz) \sinh(my)[/tex]
with [tex]k^2 + l^2 + m^2 = 0[/tex] and let [itex]A[/itex] be any complex number.

I assumed that potential should drop to zero when [itex]x,z \to \pm \infty[/itex], and this's the boundary condition that doesn't meet with my "solution".

Can anyone help me working out the solution, or forward me to some resource on it?
Thanks!
 
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Your formula cannot fit the potential. Of course, k and l are zero (because of symmetry the potential does not depends on x or z).
But the potential in this problem is a linear function of y. There is no way to fit a sinh into a straight line.
Then your assumption about the mathematical form of the solution is wrong.
Let's start with Laplace's equation:

[tex]{\partial^2 \varphi\over \partial x^2 } +<br /> {\partial^2 \varphi\over \partial y^2 } +<br /> {\partial^2 \varphi\over \partial z^2 } = 0.[/tex]

The first and third terms are zero. Then:
[tex]{\partial^2 \varphi\over \partial y^2 }= 0.[/tex]

Then: [tex]\varphi = ay+b[/tex]
 
This can't be true because plates are not infinite, and field lines are no longer straight lines when we approach to the edges:

http://www.regentsprep.org/Regents/physics/phys03/aparplate/plate2.gif

And how do we say potential itself does not depend on x either z? Apparently they do --even though the assumption that field lines were straight, they should vanish in the outside region between plates, which is defined by x and y.

I remember this problem is not easily solved (possibly from Feynman lectures)
 
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Well, if you had said that the plates where finite. I wouldn't have bothered to answer.
This problem, as Feynman said is not soluble analytically.
 

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