Laplace Equation Solved by Method of Separation of Variables

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The discussion revolves around solving the Laplace equation using the method of separation of variables. Participants are exploring the implications of boundary conditions and the characteristics of eigenfunctions in relation to the problem setup.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the form of the solution and the role of coefficients in the series. There are questions about the implications of setting lambda to zero and how it affects the boundary conditions. Clarifications are sought regarding the interpretation of boundary conditions and the nature of eigenfunctions.

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There is active engagement with the problem, including attempts to clarify boundary conditions and the properties of eigenfunctions. Some participants provide insights into the implications of the conditions, while others express confusion that prompts further exploration of the topic.

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Participants are navigating the specifics of boundary conditions and eigenvalues, with some uncertainty about the definitions and implications of these terms in the context of the Laplace equation.

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations


Assume the solution has a form of:
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The Attempt at a Solution



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It looks like a sine Fourier series except for the 2c5 term outside of the series, so I'm not sure how to go about solving for the coefficients c5 and c10. Any idea?
 
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When lambda is zero, X(x) is identically zero, which means X(x)Y(y) is also zero. So there must be nothing in front of the series.
 
voko said:
When lambda is zero, X(x) is identically zero, which means X(x)Y(y) is also zero. So there must be nothing in front of the series.

Ahhh, so for there to be a term outside the sum due to lambda=0, you must have non-zero values for both X(x) AND Y(y)? Makes sense! :D
 
I am puzzled by the boundary condition$$
\left. \frac{\partial u}{\partial y}\right |_{y=0} = u(x,0)$$Is that supposed to be the same ##u## on both sides? Or is it just another way to say something like$$
u_y(x,0) = f(x)$$some arbitrary function ##f##?
 
LCKurtz said:
I am puzzled by the boundary condition$$
\left. \frac{\partial u}{\partial y}\right |_{y=0} = u(x,0)$$Is that supposed to be the same ##u## on both sides? Or is it just another way to say something like$$
u_y(x,0) = f(x)$$some arbitrary function ##f##?

It is suppose to be u on both sides; that boundary condition is stating: Y'(0)X(x)=Y(0)X(x) since it was assumed the solution to u(x,y) had the form of X(x)Y(y).
 
OK. With that clarification for me, I would just comment about the last three lines. You already know you should have no eigenfunction for ##\lambda = 0##. Your eigenvalues are ##\lambda_n = n\pi##. Your third line from the bottom should read for the eigenfunctions ##Y_n##$$
Y_n(y) = n\pi\cosh(n\pi y)+\sinh(n\pi y)$$You don't need a constant multiple in front of them and there shouldn't be an ##x## in front of the ##\cosh## term. Similarly your eigenfunctions for ##X## are$$
X_n(x) = \sin(n\pi x)$$ Then you write your potential solution as$$
u(x,y) =\sum_{n=1}^\infty c_nX_n(x)Y_n(y)=
\sum_{n=1}^\infty c_n\sin(n\pi x)(n\pi\cosh(n\pi y)+\sinh(n\pi y))$$Now you are ready for the Fourier Series solution to the last boundary condition.
 

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