Laplace Transform Solution to Second Order ODE IVP

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The discussion focuses on solving the second-order ordinary differential equation (ODE) given by y'' + 6y = f(t) with initial conditions y(0) = 0 and y'(0) = -2, where f(t) = t for 0 ≤ t < 1 and 0 for t ≥ 1. The Laplace transform is applied, leading to the equation Y(s)(s² + 6) = 1/s² - e^(-s)/s² - e^(-s)/s - 2/(s² + 6). The participants identify algebraic errors in the transformation process and discuss the correct application of inverse Laplace transforms, particularly emphasizing the need for partial fractions and proper handling of exponential terms.

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Homework Statement


y''+6y=f(t), y(0)=0, y'(0)=-2

f(t)= t for 0≤t<1 and 0 for t≥1

Homework Equations




The Attempt at a Solution



L{y''}+6L{y}=L{t}-L{tμ(t-1)} where μ(t-1) is Unit Step

Y(s)=L{y}
sY(s)-y(0)=L{y'} and y(0)=0
s2Y(s)-sy(0)-y'(0)+6Y(s) where y(0)=0 and y'(0)=-2

LHS:
s2Y(s)+2+6Y(s)
Y(s)(s2+6)-2

RHS:
L{t}-L{tμ(t-1)}
L{t}=1/s2
L{tμ(t-1)}=L{(t-1)μ(t-1)+L{μ(t-1)}=e-s/s2+e-s/s
L{t}-L{tμ(t-1)}=1/s2-e-s/s2-e-s/s

Y(s)= -1/(s2+6) -e-s/(s2(s2+6))-e-s/s(s2+6)

taking the inverse laplace of the first term
-L-1{1/(s2+6)}=(-1/6)L-1{1/s}+(1/6)L-1{1/(s+6)}=(-1/6)+1/6e-6t)

how could I take the laplace of the other 2 terms?
I was thinking L-1{e-s/(s2(s2+6))}=y(t-1)μ(t-1)?

or I could just break it up into (1/6)L-1{1/s2}-(1/6)L-1{1/(s2+6)} which I know the inverse laplace transforms for, however when I do so I get
y(t)= (1/6)t-(1/6)+(1/6)e-6t
which seems a bit bizarre to me, I would have assumed that the answer would have a unit step function

Thank you for your time
 
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tetrakis said:

Homework Statement


y''+6y=f(t), y(0)=0, y'(0)=-2

f(t)= t for 0≤t<1 and 0 for t≥1

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



L{y''}+6L{y}=L{t}-L{tμ(t-1)} where μ(t-1) is Unit Step

Y(s)=L{y}
sY(s)-y(0)=L{y'} and y(0)=0
s2Y(s)-sy(0)-y'(0)+6Y(s) where y(0)=0 and y'(0)=-2

LHS:
s2Y(s)+2+6Y(s)
Y(s)(s2+6)-2

RHS:
L{t}-L{tμ(t-1)}
L{t}=1/s2
L{tμ(t-1)}=L{(t-1)μ(t-1)+L{μ(t-1)}=e-s/s2+e-s/s
L{t}-L{tμ(t-1)}=1/s2-e-s/s2-e-s/s
I think you're fine up to here.

Y(s)= -1/(s2+6) -e-s/(s2(s2+6))-e-s/s(s2+6)
You didn't do the algebra correctly. The first term is wrong.

taking the inverse laplace of the first term
-L-1{1/(s2+6)}=(-1/6)L-1{1/s}+(1/6)L-1{1/(s+6)}=(-1/6)+1/6e-6t)
You didn't factor the denominator correctly. ##s^2 + 6 \ne s(s+6)##. Check your table for a Laplace transform with a quadratic denominator.

how could I take the laplace of the other 2 terms?
I was thinking L-1{e-s/(s2(s2+6))}=y(t-1)μ(t-1)?

or I could just break it up into (1/6)L-1{1/s2}-(1/6)L-1{1/(s2+6)} which I know the inverse laplace transforms for, however when I do so I get
y(t)= (1/6)t-(1/6)+(1/6)e-6t
which seems a bit bizarre to me, I would have assumed that the answer would have a unit step function

Thank you for your time
 
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vela said:
I think you're fine up to here.


What happened to the -2 from the LHS?


You didn't factor the denominator correctly. ##s^2 + 6 \ne s(s+6)##. Check your table for a Laplace transform with a quadratic denominator.

definitely an algebra error present,

Y(s)(s2+6)+2=1/s2-e-s/s2-e-s/s

then bring the 2 over
Y(s)(s2+6)=1/s2-e-s/s2-e-s/s-2

divided out the (s2+6) term

Y(s)=1/(s2(s2+6)) -e-s/(s2(s2+6)) - e-s/(s(s2+6)) - 2/(s2+6)
 
vela said:
I think you're fine up to here.


You didn't do the algebra correctly. The first term is wrong.


You didn't factor the denominator correctly. ##s^2 + 6 \ne s(s+6)##. Check your table for a Laplace transform with a quadratic denominator.


So, with the algebra corrected I have
Y(s)=1/(s2(s2+6)) -e-s/(s2(s2+6)) - e-s/(s(s2+6)) - 2/(s2+6)

the inverse of the first term
L-1{1/(s2(s2+6))} I can't find anything like this in my table, most of the entries have s2+k2 which I can't break 6 down into?
 
You have to use partial fractions on that term to break it up. If ##k^2=6##, then ##k = \sqrt{6}##, no?
 
vela said:
You have to use partial fractions on that term to break it up. If ##k^2=6##, then ##k = \sqrt{6}##, no?

right! so I have 1/(s2(s2+6))=(1/6)(1/s2) - (1/6)(1/(s2+6)

which the inverse laplace transform is

(1/6)t-(√6/6)sin(√6t) ?
 
Almost. You're off by a factor of ##\sqrt{6}## in the second term:
$$\frac{1}{6}\frac{1}{s^2+6} = \frac{1}{6\sqrt{6}} \frac{\sqrt{6}}{s^2+6} \rightarrow \frac{1}{6\sqrt{6}}\sin\sqrt6 t$$
 
vela said:
Almost. You're off by a factor of ##\sqrt{6}## in the second term:
$$\frac{1}{6}\frac{1}{s^2+6} = \frac{1}{6\sqrt{6}} \frac{\sqrt{6}}{s^2+6} \rightarrow \frac{1}{6\sqrt{6}}\sin\sqrt6 t$$

right, okay, and I can also apply this to the last term?

L-1{2/(s2+6}=(2/√6)sin(6t)?

how could I approach the exponential terms?
 
The exponential indicates a time shift. You found, for example, that
$$\frac{1}{s^2+6} \rightarrow \frac{1}{6}t - \frac{1}{6\sqrt{6}} \sin \sqrt{6}t,$$ so
$$e^{-s}\frac{1}{s^2+6} \rightarrow \frac{1}{6}(t-1)u(t-1) - \frac{1}{6\sqrt{6}} \sin \sqrt{6}(t-1)\,u(t-1).$$
 
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vela said:
The exponential indicates a time shift. You found, for example, that
$$\frac{1}{s^2+6} \rightarrow \frac{1}{6}t - \frac{1}{6\sqrt{6}} \sin \sqrt{6}t,$$ so
$$e^{-s}\frac{1}{s^2+6} \rightarrow \frac{1}{6}(t-1)u(t-1) - \frac{1}{6\sqrt{6}} \sin \sqrt{6}(t-1)\,u(t-1).$$

okay, so for

$$e^{-s}\frac{1}{s(s^2+6)} \rightarrow \frac{1}{6}e^{-s}\frac{1}{s} -\frac{1}{6}e^{-s}\frac{s}{s^{2}+6} \rightarrow \frac{1}{6}u(t-1) - \frac{1}{6}cosh(\sqrt{6})u(t-1)$$?
 
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making the entire thing

$$ \frac{1}{6}t - \frac{1}{6\sqrt{6}}sin(\sqrt{6}t) - \frac{1}{6}(t-1)u(t-1) + \frac{1}{6\sqrt{6}}sin(\sqrt{6}(t-1))u(t-1) - \frac{1}{6}u(t-1) + \frac{1}{6}cosh(\sqrt{6}t)u(t-1) - \frac{2}{\sqrt{6}}sin(\sqrt{6}t) $$
 
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Where did you get cosh from? It should be cos. The argument of that function is slightly incorrect. The rest of the solution looks good.
 
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vela said:
Where did you get cosh from? It should be cos. The argument of that function is slightly incorrect. The rest of the solution looks good.

okay, fixed.

$$ \frac{1}{6}t - \frac{1}{6\sqrt{6}}sin(\sqrt{6}t) - \frac{1}{6}(t-1)u(t-1) + \frac{1}{6\sqrt{6}}sin(\sqrt{6}(t-1))u(t-1) - \frac{1}{6}u(t-1) + \frac{1}{6}cos(\sqrt{6}t)u(t-1) - \frac{2}{\sqrt{6}}sin(\sqrt{6}t) $$

I'm sorry but I'm not sure what you mean by the argument? should it be t-1 instead of t?
 
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Yes, t-1 instead of t. Everywhere t appears in the unshifted function, you have to replace it by t-1.
 
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