Laser in Outer Space: Will It Go On Forever?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of laser light in different environments, specifically comparing its propagation in Earth's atmosphere versus a vacuum, such as outer space. Participants explore the implications of laser divergence and the detection of distant galaxies by telescopes like the Hubble Space Telescope.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant posits that a laser in a vacuum would continue indefinitely without losing intensity, drawing a connection to the Hubble Space Telescope's ability to detect distant galaxies.
  • Another participant agrees with the initial assumption that lasers are just light, suggesting that the argument is valid.
  • A different participant challenges the idea of an ideal laser, noting that all lasers have a divergence angle that affects their propagation, which varies with wavelength and beam diameter.
  • Another response emphasizes that even an ideal laser beam diverges unless it is infinitely thick and clarifies that the Hubble's ability to detect distant galaxies is due to its design rather than the properties of an ideal laser.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of laser propagation in a vacuum, with some supporting the idea of indefinite travel while others highlight the effects of divergence and the limitations of the initial assumptions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these factors on laser behavior in space.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about ideal laser behavior, the definition of "ideal," and the specific conditions under which laser divergence occurs. The discussion also touches on the technical aspects of light detection by telescopes, which may not be fully explored.

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ok, second question today:

if we shine a laser (ideal laser; no spreading out whatsoever of the ray) in Earth's atmosphere, at some distance the intensity of the laser will die out due to it hitting air particles.

what if we shine it in a vacuum? e.g outer space
My guess is that it will continue forever without dying out (as long as its path is constantly vacuum). This is why Hubble can detect galaxies far far away...

Is my argument correct?

Thank you!
 
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Of course it is, why wouldn't it be? Lasers are just light, after all.
 
Your assumptions are correct for an ideal laser. Unfortunately all lasers have a divergence angle that is dependent on both the wavelength and the inverse of the beam diameter at it's smallest spot. That is a blue laser with higher energy will diverge slower than a red one, etc.
 
Even an ideal laser beam diverges, unless "ideal" also means infinitely thick.

The reason that the HST can detect and resolve distant galaxies has nothing to do with an ideal laser. The light from distant galaxies is pressumed to be diffuse, basically isotropic, and incoherent. The ability of the HST, as opposed to your naked eye here on Earth, to dectect and resolve a distant light source, such as a galaxy, is due to the design of the HST (e.g. light collection area and exposure).
 

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