Law of expansion for super heated steam

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Superheated steam exhibits ideal gas behavior primarily when its density is low enough, rather than solely at low pressure. The discussion highlights that saturated vapors do not obey Boyle's law due to condensation, while superheated steam maintains a constant number of gas molecules, allowing Boyle's law to apply effectively. The compressibility factor (z) approaches 1.0 at low pressures, indicating ideal gas behavior. Thermodynamic principles, particularly the T-V plot of steam, further illustrate that ideal gas approximations are valid at low densities and increasing specific volumes.

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Ideal gas behavior of super heated steam

Why is super heated steam said to exhibit ideal gas behavior?
 
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Soumalya said:
Why is super heated steam said to exhibit ideal gas behavior?
It exhibits approximately ideal gas behavior if the pressure is low enough.

Chet
 
Chestermiller: I prefer to say "if the density is low enough". I'm not sure that high pressure due to high temperature would make a gas less like an ideal gas.

There may be another point here…Saturated vapours don't appear to obey Boyle's law at all. If we decrease their container volume, the vapour condenses, so their are fewer molecules in the 'gas' and the pressure fails to rise. But with superheated steam, there's no chance of it condensing, so the number of 'gas' molecules doesn't change, and Boyle's law is obeyed well.
 
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Philip Wood said:
Chestermiller: I prefer to say "if the density is low enough". I'm not sure that high pressure due to high temperature would make a gas less like an ideal gas.
Thanks Philip.

Most thermo books have graphs of compressibility factor z as a function of reduced temperature and reduced pressure. This pretty much tells most of the story. One need only identify combined ranges of T and P for which z is close to 1.0. Of course, in the limit of low pressures, z approaches 1.0 irrespective of the temperature.

Chet
 
Philip Wood said:
Chestermiller: I prefer to say "if the density is low enough". I'm not sure that high pressure due to high temperature would make a gas less like an ideal gas.

There may be another point here…Saturated vapours don't appear to obey Boyle's law at all. If we decrease their container volume, the vapour condenses, so their are fewer molecules in the 'gas' and the pressure fails to rise. But with superheated steam, there's no chance of it condensing, so the number of 'gas' molecules doesn't change, and Boyle's law is obeyed well.


Agreed!

From the T-V plot of steam at superheated regions the ideal gas behavior is most accurate with increasing specific volumes at low pressures obviously.Also as pressure is increased a significantly higher rise in specific volumes would mean ideal gas approximation to be suitable.This indicates gases would approach ideal behavior at very low densities.
 
Chestermiller said:
Thanks Philip.

Most thermo books have graphs of compressibility factor z as a function of reduced temperature and reduced pressure. This pretty much tells most of the story. One need only identify combined ranges of T and P for which z is close to 1.0. Of course, in the limit of low pressures, z approaches 1.0 irrespective of the temperature.

Chet

Thanks Chestermiller:smile:
 
Soumalya said:
Agreed!

From the T-V plot of steam at superheated regions the ideal gas behavior is most accurate with increasing specific volumes at low pressures obviously.Also as pressure is increased a significantly higher rise in specific volumes would mean ideal gas approximation to be suitable.This indicates gases would approach ideal behavior at very low densities.
I see what you're saying. You're saying that the limit of low densities covers more territory in P-T space than just low pressure in identifying a broad region where the ideal gas law will apply.

Chet
 
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Chestermiller said:
I see what you're saying. You're saying that the limit of low densities covers more territory in P-T space than just low pressure in identifying a broad region where the ideal gas law will apply.

Chet

Exactly Chet!
 

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