Learning Calculus: What's the Right Order?

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The discussion centers around the suitability of Spivak's calculus book for a beginner who is also preparing for the CFA exam. The participant expresses uncertainty about their understanding of basic mathematical concepts, specifically confusing "integer" with "integral." There is a consensus that a solid foundation in proofs and basic mathematics is essential before tackling Spivak, as it may be too advanced for someone unfamiliar with fundamental concepts. Recommendations include starting with a book like "Basic Mathematics" by Lang to build foundational knowledge. Additionally, the importance of understanding integrals, defined as limits of Riemann sums, is highlighted, along with the relevance of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus. Some participants share their own experiences, noting that attempting to learn from Spivak too early can lead to confusion and apprehension about calculus. Alternative resources, such as Stewart's "Calculus Early Transcendentals," are suggested for a more accessible introduction to calculus.
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I bought Spivaks book on calculus, and also "how to prove it". I am just doing this for fun, not for school.

On an old thread I remember reading I should learn to do proofs first before moving on to Spivak. I won't be doing this for a few months because I am busy studying for CFA exam, but I just flipped through how to prove it, and on page 2 it starts talking about intergers. I don't know what an interger is (Well I know its the area under a curve but that's about it). Should I read Spivak first?
 
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Do you mean "integral" (as in area under a curve) or "integer" (as in 0,1,-1,2,-2,...)?
 
Kinda worries me if you're moving on to calculus without knowing what an integer is :p.
 
If you don't know what an integer is, then I think that Spivak will be a bit too difficult for you.

Why don't you first get a good book like "basic mathematics" by Lang and work through that?
 
I meant integral not interger. Whoops
 
CuriousBanker said:
I meant integral not interger. Whoops

An integral is a limit of Riemann sums. A Riemann sum is a height x width. Let's say you want to find the area under x^2 from 0 to 2.. A very crude estimate would be 4x2 (a single box). If you do two boxes, width 1, you get 1x1+4x1=5. A better estimate. Then 3, 4, 5, and so on. An INTEGRAL is where you take the limit as the number of boxes approaches infinity.

You get a cool theorem called the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus that helps you evaluate them.
 
I bought the Spivak book just before I started Calculus I so that I could 'prepare'. Huge mistake. I understood very little and to be quite honest, it made me fear what was about to come. I'm now taking Calc III and still won't go back to Spivak because of my earlier experiences with it.

If you're just starting then I think it may be a bit too difficult to use as a learning tool. I'm using a book called Calculus Early Transcendentals (Stewart) and it's quite good.
 

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