MHB Lebesgue Integration of Simple Functions .... Lindstrom, Lemma 7.4.6 .... ....

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The discussion revolves around proving Lemma 7.4.6 from Tom L. Lindstrom's book on measure and integration, specifically the inequality $$\lim_{n \to \infty} \int_B f_n d\mu \geq b \mu(B)$$. A participant seeks a formal approach to demonstrate this inequality, considering a contradiction if the limit were less than the product. Another contributor clarifies that since the sequence of integrals is increasing, if it diverges, it will exceed the bound, thus supporting the proof. Additionally, there is a debate regarding the notation $$f_n(x) \uparrow b$$, with some asserting it is incorrectly used since it implies convergence from below, while the lemma only guarantees that the limit is at least b. The conversation emphasizes the importance of rigorous definitions and assumptions in mathematical proofs.
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I am reading Tom L. Lindstrom's book: Spaces: An Introduction to Real Analysis ... and I am focused on Chapter 7: Measure and Integration ...

I need help with the proof of Lemma 7.4.6 ...

Lemma 7.4.6 and its proof read as follows:
Lindstrom - Lemma  7.4.6 .png

In the above proof by Lindstrom we read the following:

" ... ... Since this holds for any number $$a$$ less than $$b$$ and any number $$m$$ less than $$\mu (B)$$, we must have $$\lim_{ n \to \infty } \int_B f_n d \mu \geq b \mu (B)$$ . ... ... "I need help in order to show, formally and rigorously, that $$\lim_{ n \to \infty } \int_B f_n d \mu \geq b \mu (B)$$ ... ...My thoughts are that we could assume that $$\lim_{ n \to \infty } \int_B f_n d \mu \lt b \mu (B)$$ ... ... and proceed to demonstrate a contradiction ... but I'm not sure how to formally proceed ... ...

Help will be much appreciated ...

Peter

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Readers of the above post may be assisted by access to Lindstrom's introduction to the integration of simple functions ... so I am providing access to the relevant text ... as follows:
Lindstrom - 1 - Section 7.4 ... Integration of Simple Functions ... Part 1... .png

Lindstrom - 2 - Section 7.4 ... Integration of Simple Functions ... Part 2 ... .png


Hope that helps ...

Peter
 
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Peter said:
In the above proof by Lindstrom we read the following:

" ... ... Since this holds for any number $$a$$ less than $$b$$ and any number $$m$$ less than $$\mu (B)$$, we must have $$\lim_{ n \to \infty } \int_B f_n d \mu \geq b \mu (B)$$ . ... ... "I need help in order to show, formally and rigorously, that $$\lim_{ n \to \infty } \int_B f_n d \mu \geq b \mu (B)$$ ... ...
You want formal and rigorous, here it is!

First, Lindstrom appears to assume that $\lim_{n\to\infty}\int_Bf_n\,d\mu$ exists. Since $\left\{\int_Bf_n\,d\mu\right\}$ is an increasing sequence, it will either converge to a finite limit or tend to infinity. I don't know whether Lindstrom allows infinity as a possible limit. Even if he does, we do not need to worry about that case, because if $\int_Bf_n\,d\mu$ does go to infinity it will certainly eventually be larger than $b\mu(B)$.

To prove the inequality, given $\varepsilon>0$, choose $\delta$ such that $0<\delta<\dfrac{\varepsilon}{b+\mu(B)}$. Now choose $a<b$ and $m<\mu(B)$ with $a>b-\delta$ and $m>\mu(B)-\delta$. Then $$b\mu(B) - am = b(\mu(B) - m) + m(b-a) < \delta(b + m) < \delta(b + \mu(B)) = \varepsilon.$$ So $am > b\mu(B) - \varepsilon$. With $N$ as in Lindstrom's proof it follows that$$ \int_Bf_n\,d\mu \geqslant am > b\mu(B) - \varepsilon$$ whenever $n\geqslant N$. Since that holds for all $\varepsilon>0$, $$ \int_Bf_n\,d\mu \geqslant b\mu(B)$$.

[You will recognise that the above argument is just a variant of the proof that the limit of a product is the product of the two limits.]
 
Thanks for a most helpful post Opalg ...

Working carefully through your proof now ...

BUT ... I have another question ...

In the above proof by Lindstrom we read the following:

" ... ... Since $$f_n (x) \uparrow b$$ for all $$x \in B$$ ... ... "Unless I am misunderstanding the notation, $$f_n (x) \uparrow b$$ means $$f_n$$ tends to $$b$$ from below ... but ... all we are given is that $$\lim_{n \to \infty } f_n (x) \geq b$$ which surely is not the same ...

Can someone please clarify this issue ...

Peter
 
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Peter said:
In the above proof by Lindstrom we read the following:

" ... ... Since $$f_n (x) \uparrow b$$ for all $$x \in B$$ ... ... "Unless I am misunderstanding the notation, $$f_n (x) \uparrow b$$ means $$f_n$$ tends to $$b$$ from below ... but ... all we are given is that $$\lim_{n \to \infty } f_n (x) \geq b$$ which surely is not the same ...
I completely agree with you. The statement of the lemma says that $\{f_n\}$ is an increasing sequence and that $\{f_n(x)\}$ has a limit that is greater than or equal to $b$. The statement in the proof of the lemma, that $f_n(x)\uparrow b$, is careless and wrong (because the limit could be greater than $b$). However, the information given in the statement of the lemma is sufficient to ensure that the sequence $\{A_n\}$ is increasing and that $$B = \bigcup_{n=1}^\infty A_n$$, which is what is needed for the rest of the proof to work.
 
Oh ... thanks Opalg ...

Appreciate your help ...

Peter
 
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