Light - electromagnetic frequency

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of light when two sources of electromagnetic radiation at the same frequency (200 THz) are combined. Participants explore whether this combination results in a new frequency (400 THz) or simply affects intensity. The conversation touches on concepts of light frequency, intensity, and the conditions under which frequency changes can occur.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires if shining two light sources at 200 THz simultaneously would result in a frequency of 400 THz.
  • Another participant asserts that combining two lights of the same frequency will not change the frequency, which remains at 200 THz unless a special nonlinear material is used.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that just as temperatures do not add, frequencies should not either, questioning the rationale behind combining frequencies.
  • It is noted that while combining two beams of the same color (e.g., red) increases intensity, it does not change the color or frequency, except under specific conditions like using laser beams with phase cancellation.
  • A participant expresses interest in the concept of nonlinear materials that can change frequency, indicating a desire for further information.
  • Another participant acknowledges the previous points but feels that the essence of their original question was not fully addressed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that combining two light sources of the same frequency does not result in a new frequency. However, there is some disagreement regarding the implications of this and the nuances of how light intensity and frequency interact.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the complexities of light behavior in different contexts, such as the role of nonlinear materials or the specific conditions under which frequency changes might occur.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying optics, electromagnetic theory, or anyone curious about the properties of light and its interaction with materials.

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hi Guys,

if i have 2 sources of "light" that both have an electromagnetic frequency of 200 THz (infrared/invisible).

- now, if i shine both of them into my eye at the same time, will i see light at a frequency of 400 THz?

greetings...




( ps: I'm not going to try this and i suspect that it is dangerous and not possible, just mainly want to know why )
 
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If you combine two "lights" that have the same frequency, the result will have the same frequency as well. So, in your example, still at 200 THz.

To get double the frequency, you would need a special nonlinear material to convert the 200 THz into 400 THz. This can be done, but again it requires a special material, it does not just happen as a matter of course.
 
No. The reason is "why should it?" If it's 70 degrees in Los Angeles and 50 degrees in San Francisco, it's not 120 degrees in California. There's no reason to add temperatures and there is no reason to add frequencies.
 
For visible radiation, the frequency is the color of the radiation. If you shine two red lights into your eye, you won't see blue, you just see red at double the intensity. When you add two beams together, you get double the intensity, not double the frequency. Well, that's not completely true, if its like a laser beam, then you can have phase cancelling, but if the beam has a mix of frequencies in a large enough range around the center frequency, then it will pretty much add up intensities.
 
thanks for the interesting answers


Redbelly98 - didn't know that there were materials that could do that, that's just the kind of information i was looking for... thanks

Vanadium 50 - i understand what you mean but i guess you kind of missed the point of my question

Rap - i will think about that thanks


sorry for the late reply, i was distracted.
 

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