Light Speed: Consequences of Relativistic Speeds

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the implications of shooting a laser from a spacecraft traveling at relativistic speeds (0.700c) and how the speed of light is perceived in different frames of reference. Participants explore the nuances of relativistic speed and the constancy of light speed in various contexts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that light emitted from the front of the spacecraft would travel at 3.00 x 10^8 m/s, claiming that the speed of light cannot be exceeded.
  • Another participant points out that the question is poorly posed, as it does not clarify whether the speed is relative to the spacecraft or an external observer, but concludes that light will always travel at c regardless of direction.
  • A different participant emphasizes that while traveling, one is always at 0c, reinforcing that the speed of light remains constant and cannot be approached or exceeded.
  • One participant suggests that the wording of the question may have been intentional, as it relies on the constancy of light speed to be meaningful.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the clarity of the exam question and the implications of relativistic speeds. There is no consensus on the interpretation of the question or the implications of light speed in this context.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the ambiguity in the phrasing of the exam question and the assumptions regarding relative motion and the constancy of the speed of light, which remain unresolved.

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say your traveling in a spacecraft at relatavistic speeds, about .700c and you shoot a laser out of the spacecraft (3.00 x 10^8 m/s foward). How was does the light travel. If you do the same thing but shoot it out the abck the oppossite way how was does the light travel.

This was a question on my exam this morning
the light out of the front would travel at 3.00 x 10 ^ 8 m/s correct? because the speed of light cannot be broken.
 
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blimkie said:
say your traveling in a spacecraft at relatavistic speeds, about .700c and you shoot a laser out of the spacecraft (3.00 x 10^8 m/s foward). How was does the light travel. If you do the same thing but shoot it out the abck the oppossite way how was does the light travel.

This was a question on my exam this morning
the light out of the front would travel at 3.00 x 10 ^ 8 m/s correct? because the speed of light cannot be broken.
Strictly speaking, the question is not well posed since it doesn't say whether the speed is to be taken relative to you or the person with relative to whom you are moving at 0.700c. It really dosn't matter, the light will, of course, travel at c, about 3 x 10^8 m/s, whether it is directed forward or backward, whether relative to you in the spacecraft or relative to the person who sees you moving at 0.700c. If you want to do it the hard way, remember that the formula for adding relativistic speeds is
[tex]\frac{u+ v}{1+ \frac{uv}{c^2}}[/tex]
so that if u= c, the speed is
[tex]\frac{v+ c}{1+ \frac{cv}{c^2}}= \frac{v+c}{1+ \frac{v}{c}}= \frac{(v+c)c}{v+c}= c[/tex]
 
blimkie said:
say your traveling in a spacecraft at relatavistic speeds, about .700c and you shoot a laser out of the spacecraft (3.00 x 10^8 m/s foward). How was does the light travel. If you do the same thing but shoot it out the abck the oppossite way how was does the light travel.

This was a question on my exam this morning
the light out of the front would travel at 3.00 x 10 ^ 8 m/s correct? because the speed of light cannot be broken.
Well in my understanding of the matter we always travel at 0c.
The speed of light is always c, we cannot catch up or approach it.

The exam question was worded poorly, if should have said something like travel at 0.700c relative to a particular object in space. You cannot measure speed relative to the speed of light since Einstein's theory proved that the speed of light remains constant.
 
I think the question was probably worded that way on purpose. Only because lightspeed is constant can the question be asked that way.
 

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