Light speed; time dialation theory and its age

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The discussion centers on the implications of time dilation theory as it relates to light traveling at the speed of light (c). Participants clarify that while time dilation affects objects moving close to c, it is unphysical to consider light itself having an age or existing in a rest frame, as no object can reach the speed of light. The conversation emphasizes that the laws of physics, particularly in Special Relativity, apply only to velocities less than c, and thus discussing a rest frame for light is meaningless. For further understanding, the Relativity FAQ is recommended.

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Hi All..
I have a basic doubt in time dilation theory. As per time dilation theory, when an object moves with the velocity of light, then relatively its time becomes zero. In that case, light is traveling at 'velocity of light'. So for light, there is no age? Or I misconcepted time dilation theory?
 
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You are asking for an unphysical situation. We don't have the ability to transform and know what laws work in the frame moving with velocity c.

I suggest you read the Relativity FAQ

https://www.physicsforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=210

...especially the entry on the rest frame of a photon.

Zz.
 
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When you look at an someone moving with the velocity near to that of light, in your rest frame, you see that he gets older more slowly than if he was in your inertial frame, and obviously it doesn't mean that he is younger in his inertial frame too. The fact is that you are talking about the worldtime while his age, which is defined by himself, is according to the propertime (time in his rest frame). It is clear that matter never reach to c and your question is about light, but it seems the approach to it the same, for measuring the light's age you should go to its rest frame that is impossible while we can never reach to c.
 
@ Saeide: As you said, we're not potential enough to reach velocity of light to measure its age. Maybe in light's frame; it might have some ages. But What I'm talking about is the intertial frame where the light does exist.
 
The inertial frame where the light exists and the light's frame are the same, while the light velocity is constant and as a result we can say that the frame is inertial. Of course our physics laws are applicable only for velocities less than c, just like singularities in GR that we are not aware of what is going on in them.
 
In Special Relativity, light is defined to propagate at c in any inertial frame you choose. When we talk about an object's inertial frame, we mean one in which the object is at rest. Therefore, it is meaningless to talk about light's frame. This isn't just a semantic issue, the mathematics won't support one inertial frame moving at c relative to another inertial frame so we can safely conclude that no object can move at c in any inertial frame.
 

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