Can Light Travel Through Vacuum and Be Detected Off Its Path?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of light within a hollow reflective sphere and the possibility of detecting light from a point not aligned with its path in a vacuum. It explores theoretical aspects of light propagation, reflection, and the effects of temperature on light behavior, as well as the nature of electromagnetic fields in relation to light detection.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether light can be detected from a point not inline with its path, suggesting it may disturb the electromagnetic field in a detectable way.
  • Another participant asserts that light is only detectable when it directly hits a detector, implying that detection cannot occur otherwise.
  • There is curiosity about how the temperature of the sphere (very cold or very hot) might affect the absorption of light.
  • A participant raises the idea of sending light into the sphere at a rate faster than it dissipates, questioning the implications of this scenario.
  • Concerns are expressed about the absorption characteristics of mirrored walls and how increasing the amount of light would lead to greater dissipation, regardless of the mirror's quality.
  • One participant notes that if light is injected faster than heat can be drained from the mirrors, it could lead to melting or vaporization of the mirrors.

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Participants express differing views on the detectability of light and the effects of temperature and light injection rates, indicating that multiple competing views remain and the discussion is unresolved.

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There are limitations regarding assumptions about the properties of light, the nature of electromagnetic fields, and the specific conditions under which the scenarios are considered. The discussion does not resolve how these factors interact in the proposed situations.

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I asked myself this question : If you have a hollow sphere with reflective surface on the inside and send light into it what happens to the light? and found a number of places where the question has been asked and answered.

One answer : talked about electro magnetic field being everywhere even in vacuum before any light travels through it and went on to talk about the nature of light. This led me to another question.

If light is sent off through vacuum space to another point, is it possible to detect that light from a point not inline with the path of light? Does the light 'disturb' the electro magnetic field in a way that's detectable?

I have only high school physics from 40 years ago but I try to understand. I have no doubt that I use the wrong terms and concepts to formulate the question.
 
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In real life, it will bounce back and forth a few thousand times before being dissipated to nothing. If you assume perfect reflectivity, it would bounce back and forth forever.

For the second question; light is only detectable when it hits a detector. You cannot detect it otherwise.
 
Thank you.

What happens if the sphere is very cold or very hot?

edit add: what if you send light into the sphere faster than it dissipates?
 
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john101 said:
What happens if the sphere is very cold or very hot?

not sure how much heat or coolness of the material would affect absorption ?

you need to understand that any object above 0 K (zero Kelvin) is radiating EM
john101 said:
edit add: what if you send light into the sphere faster than it dissipates?

faster ? ... EM has a fixed speed in a given meduium
 
What I mean is if the amount of light entering the sphere is greater than the rate at which it dissipates. Even that sound a bit odd but surely what I'm trying to say is clear.?
 
john101 said:
what if you send light into the sphere faster than it dissipates?
Typically, a mirrored wall will absorb some percentage of the inbound light and reflect the rest. Accordingly, if you send in more light, the dissipation will increase in proportion. Ultimately, 100% of the incoming light will be lost regardless of how perfect the mirrors are, how they are angled or how fast you inject light into the enclosure. Inject more light and you lose more at each bounce. Improve the mirrors so that less is lost at each bounce and you get more bounces.

Of course, If you inject light faster than you can drain heat from the mirrors as the light is absorbed, you will eventually melt or vaporize the mirrors.
 

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