Light velocity change in different medium

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the behavior of light velocity as it passes through different media, specifically exploring the relationships between velocity, wavelength, and frequency. Participants inquire about the causal relationships among these properties and whether similar principles apply to other types of waves.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that wavelength changes when light passes through different media, suggesting that frequency does not change to avoid phase issues at boundaries.
  • Another participant questions the cause-and-effect relationship between changes in velocity, wavelength, and frequency, asking whether changes in velocity cause changes in wavelength or vice versa.
  • A participant explains that the change in light velocity is due to changes in permittivity and permeability of the medium, referencing the relationship c^2 = 1/(εμ) and noting that changes in velocity lead to changes in wavelength.
  • This participant also draws parallels to other types of waves, such as sound, indicating that similar principles apply when sound waves transition between different media.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the causal relationships between velocity, wavelength, and frequency, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding these relationships.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the direct cause-and-effect relationships among velocity, wavelength, and frequency, as well as the applicability of these principles to various types of waves.

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Hi,
As we know, "velocity = wavelength * frequency" and light will change its speed when it passes different types of medium.
I wonder in velocity, wavelength and frequency, which one's change cause the others changing? Does its frequency change in different types of medium? or its wavelength change?
Thanks!
 
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Wavelength changes. If frequency changed, the wave on either side of the boundary would come out of phase and that makes no sense.
 
Thanks! Two questions:

in terms of cause and result, does the change in velocity cause the change in wavelength, or the reverse, or they are not directly of cause and result relation?

Is the conclusion same for other types of wave (general waves, not only light or electromagnetic field) passing different types of medium? i.e. frequency of wave does not change, but only wavelength and speed change.
 
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The change in velocity of light is due to a change in permittivity (epsilon) and permeability (mu) of the medium. [tex]c^2=\frac{1}{\epsilon\mu}[/tex] for any medium. And [tex]299782458^2\frac{m^2}{s^2}=\frac{1}{\epsilon_0\mu_0}[/tex] for a vacuum. The change in velocity changes the wavelength.
The same is true for other waves like sound changing from air to steel. For sound, the parameters that change are "coefficient of stiffness" and density. "Coefficient of stiffness" depends on bulk modulus and shear modulus.
Earthquake waves do the same thing with changes in rock. See Wikipedia's article on the speed of sound.

If you want that simpler: "Changes in velocity are due to changes in medium parameters. Changes in wavelength are due to changes velocity. It applies to all wave phenomena."
 
Thank you!
 

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