Limit of a long trig function.

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The problem involves evaluating the limit as x approaches 0 for the expression ((sin(5x)/(sin(2x)) - (sin(3x)/(4x))). The subject area pertains to limits in calculus, particularly involving trigonometric functions.

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  • The original poster attempts to separate the limit into two parts and manipulate the expressions to find the limit. Some participants question the accuracy of the problem statement and suggest alternative interpretations that simplify the limit evaluation. Others point out potential algebraic errors in the original poster's reasoning.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's calculations, offering feedback on possible mistakes and clarifying the setup of the limit. There is a mix of interpretations being explored, particularly regarding the correct formulation of the limit and the algebraic manipulations involved.

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There is uncertainty about the exact formulation of the limit as presented in the original poster's source, which may affect the evaluation. Participants are also discussing the implications of using approximations for sin(x) as x approaches 0.

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Homework Statement


lim
x->0 ((sin5x)/(sin2x) - (sin3x)/(4x))


Homework Equations


i guess sinx/x as x approaches zero is 1.


The Attempt at a Solution


lets be honest, this is a simple question. i am getting a final answer of 4, but it is wrong apperently according to the book's solution. i want to see if anyone else got this answer

I separated the limit into two limits, divided by 5x's and 2x's on the left limit and divided by 3x's on the right limit. this shouldn't be a problem (and yes i divided top and bottom by the same amounts so they would cancel out; that's not my mistake). please someone help
 
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You've obviously made an algebra error somewhere, If you show your work, we can tell you where your error is.
 
Are you sure you have given us the problem as it appears in your book or assignment? Could it be lim sin(5x)/(2x) - sin(3x)/(4x)? If so, that's a much simpler problem, whose limit is 1.75, as x approaches 0.
 
[tex]\frac{sin(3x)}{4x}= \frac{3}{4}\frac{sin(3x)}{3x}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{sin(5x)}{sin(2x)}= \frac{5}{2}\frac{sin(5x)}{5x}\frac{sin(2x)}{2x}[/tex]
 
Mark44 said:
Are you sure you have given us the problem as it appears in your book or assignment? Could it be lim sin(5x)/(2x) - sin(3x)/(4x)? If so, that's a much simpler problem, whose limit is 1.75, as x approaches 0.

HOW IS IT 1.75! wheres the flaw in my logic.

(sin5x)/sin2x = [((sin5x)/(5x*2x)]/[(sin2x)/(5x*2x)]
= (5/2x)/(2/5x))
= 25/4


(sin3x)/4x = [(sin3x/3x)]/[(4x/3x)]
= 3/(4x/3x)
= 3/(4/3)
= 9/4

25/4 - 9/4 = 16/4 = 4 where is my flaw!?
 
HallsofIvy said:
[tex]\frac{sin(3x)}{4x}= \frac{3}{4}\frac{sin(3x)}{3x}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{sin(5x)}{sin(2x)}= \frac{5}{2}\frac{sin(5x)}{5x}\frac{sin(2x)}{2x}[/tex]

Halls, are you missing a division symbol in your second equation?
 
mrjoe2 said:
HOW IS IT 1.75! wheres the flaw in my logic.

(sin5x)/sin2x = [((sin5x)/(5x*2x)]/[(sin2x)/(5x*2x)]
= (5/2x)/(2/5x))
= 25/4
How did you get (5/2x)/(2/5x)) from the expression above it? lim (as x [tex]\rightarrow[/tex] 0) of sin(5x) / (5x) is 1, not 5, if that's what you did.

The expression on the right side of your first line is equal to
[tex]\frac{sin(5x)}{5x} * \frac{5x}{2x} * \frac{2x}{sin(2x)}[/tex]
As x [tex]\rightarrow[/tex] 0, this expression approaches 1 * 5/2 * 1 = 5/2. Similarly sin(3x)/(4x) approaches 3/4, so the difference approaches 7/4 = 1.75.

Regarding my earlier question about whether the denominator of the first fraction should have been 2x rather than sin(2x), it doesn't matter. For x close to 0, sin(x) [tex]\approx[/tex] x, and sin(2x) [tex]\approx[/tex] 2x.

mrjoe2 said:
(sin3x)/4x = [(sin3x/3x)]/[(4x/3x)]
= 3/(4x/3x)
= 3/(4/3)
= 9/4

25/4 - 9/4 = 16/4 = 4 where is my flaw!?
 

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