Limit of x/(x+1) as x Goes to Infinity: Why is It 1?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of the function x/(x+1) as x approaches infinity, specifically addressing why the limit is 1 rather than 0. Participants explore the implications of indeterminate forms and the application of L'Hôpital's rule in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants question the validity of applying L'Hôpital's rule and discuss the concept of indeterminate forms. Some suggest alternative methods for evaluating limits of rational functions, such as dividing by the highest power of x. Others express confusion about the differentiation process and the relationship between derivatives and limits.

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The discussion is active, with various participants providing insights and questioning assumptions. Some have offered guidance on alternative approaches to finding the limit, while others are still grappling with the application of L'Hôpital's rule and the reasoning behind the limit's value.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the application of L'Hôpital's rule and the differentiation of functions. Participants also mention the need for clarity on the behavior of the function as x approaches infinity.

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I am looking at the limit as x goes to infinity of x/(x+1)...

If you plug in infinity, won't it produce an indeterminate form inf/inf ? And then by taking the derivative, I get 1/(x+1)^2, which goes to 0... So can anyone explain why the limit is 1 as opposed to 0?
 
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frasifrasi said:
And then by taking the derivative, I get 1/(x+1)^2, which goes to 0...
What does that have to do with anything?
 
And how do you "plug in infinity" ...?
 
it's

[tex]\frac{x}{x+1}[/tex]

not

[tex]\frac{x}{x^{-1}}[/tex]
 
frasifrasi said:
I am looking at the limit as x goes to infinity of x/(x+1)...

If you plug in infinity, won't it produce an indeterminate form inf/inf ? And then by taking the derivative, I get 1/(x+1)^2, which goes to 0... So can anyone explain why the limit is 1 as opposed to 0?

Simply use l'Hôpital's rule to compute this limit. This indeed gives a value of 1 as x tends to infinity.
 
since the function behaves like the y=1 line then there is nothing wrong about its derivative to be 0 at infinity.
 
Your reference to the derivative in your first post makes me think you were trying L'Hopital's rule, but incorrectly. L'Hopital's rule says that if f(x) and g(x) both go to 0 (or to infinity)
[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow a}= \lim_{x\rightarrow a}\frac{f'(x)}{g'(x)}[/tex]
: differentiate the numerator and denominator separately.

However, a much simpler way to handle limits at infinity, of rational functions, is to divide both numerator and denominator by the highest power of x- here just divide numerator and denominator by x. [itex]\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} x[/itex] is difficult but [itex]\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} 1/x[/itex] is easy!
 
Yes, I was doing the l'hopital's rule. I understand that technique of factoring by the highest power and realized that is how the limit was obtained in the book.

But my question is, why doesn't l'hopital apply here? Doesn't the limit of the top and bottom function both go to infinity?
 
Technique of "factoring"?
What is f and what is g, and what are their respective derivatives?
 
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Oh, i see...i was deriving the entire function rather than top and bottom...
 
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frasifrasi said:
I am looking at the limit as x goes to infinity of x/(x+1)...

If you plug in infinity, won't it produce an indeterminate form inf/inf ? And then by taking the derivative, I get 1/(x+1)^2, which goes to 0... So can anyone explain why the limit is 1 as opposed to 0?

If f(x)->a<infinity then f'(x) must go to zero. Draw a picture.

EDIT: If it is differentiable...this is not an existence inference...or maybe it is. Let me think.
 
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[tex]\frac{x}{x+1}=1-\frac{1}{x+1}[/tex]

[tex]=1-\frac{\frac{1}{x}}{1+\frac{1}{x}}[/tex]

Now as [itex]x\rightarrow\infty[/itex],[itex]\frac{1}{x}\rightarrow0[/itex]

and therefore [tex]\frac{\frac{1}{x}}{1+\frac{1}{x}}\rightarrow0[/tex]and thus the limit is 1
 

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