Lineal Algebra: Inverse Matrix of Symmetric Matrix

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the inverse of symmetric matrices in the context of linear algebra. Participants are exploring algebraic manipulations related to determinants and adjoint matrices, particularly focusing on two specific problems involving matrix inverses.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to simplify determinants and adjoint matrices to find the inverse. Questions about algebraic errors and factorization methods are raised, along with inquiries about properties of symmetric matrices that may aid in simplification.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of algebraic manipulations, with some participants providing feedback on errors and suggesting potential simplifications. Multiple interpretations of the determinant and its factorization are being discussed, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without a clear consensus on the final approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about specific algebraic steps and the implications of symmetric matrix properties on their calculations. There is a focus on ensuring that the calculations lead to a simplified form of the inverse matrix.

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Homework Statement



Hello,

I need some help in the fist parts of two lineal algebra problems, specially with algebraic manipulation. I guess that if I rewrite the determinant nicely some terms get canceled and I can write the inverse nicely, but don't know how to do it...

Problem 1:

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Problem 2:

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The Attempt at a Solution



Problem 1:

(1) Det(A) = a(a^2-b^2) -b(ba-b^2) + b(b^2-ab) = b(b-a)(2b-\frac{a^2}{b})

(2) A^-1 = \frac {adj(A)}{Det(A)}

Adj(A) = \left[ \begin{matrix} a^2-b^2 & b(b-a) & b(b-a) \\ b(b-a) & a^2-b^2 & b(b-a) \\ b(b-a) & b(b-a) & a^2-b^2 \end{matrix} \right]

A^-1 = ?
(I can write the terms outside the diagonal nicely because some parts get cancelled, but not the diagonal itself...)

Problem 2:

(1)

Sum of eigenvalues:
Trace(A) = a + b + c

Product of eigenvalues:
Det(A) = a(bc -b^2) -a(ac-ab) + 0 = abc - ab^2 - a^2c + a^2b

(2) A^-1 = \frac {adj(A)}{Det(A)}

Adj(A) = \left[ \begin{matrix} b(c-b) & a(b-c) & 0 \\ a(b-c) & a(c-a) & a(a-b) \\ 0 & a(a-b) & a(b-a) \end{matrix} \right]

A^-1 = ?Thanks in advance...
 
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degs2k4 said:
Problem 1:

(1) Det(A) = a(a^2-b^2) -b(ba-b^2) + b(b^2-ab) = b(b-a)(2b-\frac{a^2}{b})
You made an algebra error when you simplified and factored. You should get (a-b)2(a+2b).
(2) A^-1 = \frac {adj(A)}{Det(A)}

Adj(A) = \left[ \begin{matrix} a^2-b^2 & b(b-a) & b(b-a) \\ b(b-a) & a^2-b^2 & b(b-a) \\ b(b-a) & b(b-a) & a^2-b^2 \end{matrix} \right]

A^-1 = ?
(I can write the terms outside the diagonal nicely because some parts get cancelled, but not the diagonal itself...)
That's correct. The diagonal elements already look pretty nice to me.
 
degs2k4 said:
Problem 2:

(1)

Sum of eigenvalues:
Trace(A) = a + b + c

Product of eigenvalues:
Det(A) = a(bc -b^2) -a(ac-ab) + 0 = abc - ab^2 - a^2c + a^2b

(2) A^-1 = \frac {adj(A)}{Det(A)}

Adj(A) = \left[ \begin{matrix} b(c-b) & a(b-c) & 0 \\ a(b-c) & a(c-a) & a(a-b) \\ 0 & a(a-b) & a(b-a) \end{matrix} \right]

A^-1 = ?

Thanks in advance...
This is all correct. You can factor det(A) and get some cancellation when you calculate A-1. You can always check your answer by multiplying A by the inverse you calculate and verify you get the identity matrix.
 
vela said:
You made an algebra error when you simplified and factored. You should get (a-b)2(a+2b).

Thanks. However, my main problem is how to get the inverse, because I want to get some parts canceled but don't know how to do it...

vela said:
That's correct. The diagonal elements already look pretty nice to me.

My main problem is on getting the inverse matrix, not the adjoin matrix ...
 
vela said:
This is all correct. You can factor det(A) and get some cancellation when you calculate A-1. You can always check your answer by multiplying A by the inverse you calculate and verify you get the identity matrix.

I am sorry it may sound very basic but... how could I factor that ? I have been trying but reach nowhere...
 
degs2k4 said:
Thanks. However, my main problem is how to get the inverse, because I want to get some parts canceled but don't know how to do it...



My main problem is on getting the inverse matrix, not the adjoin matrix ...
I'm not sure where you're getting stuck. You noted that the inverse is just the adjoint matrix divided by the determinant. You have both. Just do the division.
 
degs2k4 said:
I am sorry it may sound very basic but... how could I factor that ? I have been trying but reach nowhere...
abc-ab^2-a^2c+a^2b = a(bc-b^2-ac+ab) = a[b(c-b)-a(c-b)] = a(c-b)(b-a)
 
vela said:
You made an algebra error when you simplified and factored. You should get (a-b)2(a+2b).

Thanks! By the way, which method did you follow to reach that factorization?

vela said:
abc-ab^2-a^2c+a^2b = a(bc-b^2-ac+ab) = a[b(c-b)-a(c-b)] = a(c-b)(b-a)

Thanks!

I used the factored determinants you showed to me to calculate the inverse matrix, but the calculations don't get as simplified as I thought at first. Are there any other properties of symmetric matrices that can be used for calculating the inverse faster ?

Thanks for your help...
 

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