Linear algebra : calculating the determinant

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The problem involves two 2x2 matrices, A and B, with given equations relating their determinants. The original poster attempts to calculate the determinant of matrix A based on the equations A²B=3I and A^T*B³=-I.

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  • Participants discuss the relationships between the determinants of A and B derived from the equations. There is an exploration of how to solve the system of equations involving the determinants.

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Some participants have provided guidance on solving the equations for the determinants, while others have expressed uncertainty about their calculations. There is an acknowledgment of errors made in the process, and attempts to clarify the correct approach are ongoing.

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Participants note the complexity of solving non-linear equations and the potential for errors in calculations. The original poster has indicated a lack of confidence in their approach, which has led to further discussion and attempts to clarify the problem.

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-1. Homework Statement
Let A and B be 2x2 matrices such that A²B=3I and A^T*B³=-I, where A^T is the transposed matrix of A, and I is the identity matrix.
Calculate det(A).
0. The attempt at a solution
I know I don't know how to approach correctly the problem, but I've tried something.
I know that the determinant of A squared times the determinant of B is equal to 9 and that minus the determinant of A times the determinant of B cubed is worth 1. From this, I can't reach the answer. And I've no idea about a different approach.
If you have an idea, I'd be glad to be its tester.
 
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What exactly is the question?:confused:
 
gabbagabbahey said:
What exactly is the question?:confused:

Oops you're right. The question is to find out det (A).
I edit the first post to make it clearer.
 
Okay, in that case you are on the right track ; basically you have 2 equations:

[tex](\det A)^2\det B=9[/tex] and [tex](\det A)(\det B)^3=1[/tex]

with two unknowns; [itex]\det A[/itex] and [itex]\det B[/itex]

How would you normally go about solving a system of two (non-linear) equations and two unknowns? Try solving the first for [itex]\det B[/itex] and substituting it into the second.
 
gabbagabbahey said:
Okay, in that case you are on the right track ; basically you have 2 equations:

[tex](\det A)^2\det B=9[/tex] and [tex](\det A)(\det B)^3=1[/tex]

with two unknowns; [itex]\det A[/itex] and [itex]\det B[/itex]

How would you normally go about solving a system of two (non-linear) equations and two unknowns? Try solving the first for [itex]\det B[/itex] and substituting it into the second.
That's what I've tried to do, but I gave up because I made an error.
Well now you gave me confidence and I could reach a result : det (A)=[tex]\sqrt [4] {9^3}[/tex]. Thank you very much!
 
fluidistic said:
That's what I've tried to do, but I gave up because I made an error.
Well now you gave me confidence and I could reach a result : det (A)=[tex]\sqrt [4] {9^3}[/tex]. Thank you very much!

Unfortunately you still have an error; you should get [tex]\det A =9^{3/5}[/tex]
 
gabbagabbahey said:
Unfortunately you still have an error; you should get [tex]\det A =9^{3/5}[/tex]

Oh well, that's maybe a bit too late for me right now. I just saw my error! Unforgivable, I wrote that [tex](det(A)^2)^3=det(A)^5[/tex] instead of [tex]det(A)^6[/tex].
I got it now. Thank you!
 

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