Linear Algebra: Linear Independence and writing Matrices as linear combinations

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The discussion revolves around the concept of linear independence in the context of matrices. The original poster presents a set of matrices and seeks to express one matrix as a linear combination of the others, given that the matrices are linearly dependent.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss setting up equations based on the coefficients of the matrices to explore linear dependence. There are attempts to reduce a matrix derived from these equations using Gauss-Jordan elimination. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the row reduction and the implications of the resulting equations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights into the implications of the row-reduced matrix. There is a recognition of potential mistakes in the reduction process, and some participants suggest how to interpret the coefficients in relation to the matrices. The discussion is ongoing, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the setup of the equations and the interpretation of the resulting coefficients. Participants are questioning the assumptions made during the reduction process and the relationships between the matrices.

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Homework Statement



If linearly dependent, write one matrix as a linear combination of the rest.

[tex]\left[\begin{array}{cc} 1&1 \\ 2&1 \end{array}\right][/tex] [tex]\left[\begin{array}{cc} 1&0 \\ 0&2 \end{array}\right][/tex] [tex]\left[\begin{array}{cc} 0&3 \\ 2&1 \end{array}\right][/tex] [tex]\left[\begin{array}{cc} 4&6 \\ 8&6 \end{array}\right][/tex]

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The Attempt at a Solution



Choosing coefficients a, b, c, d for the matrices, respectively, I set up 4 equations and 4 unknowns:

row 1 column 1: [tex]a + b + 4d = 0[/tex]
row 1 column 2: [tex]a+ 3c + 6d = 0[/tex]
row 2 column 1: [tex]2a + 2c + 8d = 0[/tex]
row 2 column 2: [tex]a + 2b + c + 6d = 0[/tex]

From this, I create a 4x5 matrix and using Gauss-Jordan elimination arrive at:

Edit: this is wrong. See below

[tex]\left[\begin{array}{ccccc}<br /> 1&0&0&2&0 \\<br /> 0&1&0&2&0 \\<br /> 0&0&1&\frac{4}{3}&0 \\<br /> 0&0&0&0&0 \end{array}\right][/tex]

From this, it is clear that the 4 matrices are linearly dependent.

What I do not understand: how do I, given this last matrix, write one of the matrices as a linear combination of the others?

Thanks
 
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Your last matrix means this:
a = -2d
b = -2d
c = -4/3 d

From this we can deduce that d is arbitrary, so let d = 1.
Then a = -2, b = -2, and c = -4/3.

Put these values into the equation you set up to determine linear dependence and you'll see that one of them is a particular linear combination of the other three matrices.

BTW, when you solved the 4 equations in 4 unknowns, you could have used a 4 x 4 matrix instead of a 4 x 5 augmented matrix. Your 5th column started as all zeroes and never changed.
 
Mark44 said:
Your last matrix means this:
a = -2d
b = -2d
c = -4/3 d

From this we can deduce that d is arbitrary, so let d = 1.
Then a = -2, b = -2, and c = -4/3.

Put these values into the equation you set up to determine linear dependence and you'll see that one of them is a particular linear combination of the other three matrices.

I attempted to check this, but it appears to not work, as the equation generated is not true.

[tex]-2a - 2b + \frac{4}{3}c = d[/tex]

Have I reduced the 4x5 matrix incorrectly or is the problem more fundamental?
 
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edit: read the equations wrong
 
It's possible you made a mistake in reducing your 4x5 matrix. If so, that will affect the values of a, b, c, and d.

Assuming for the moment that your work was correct, these values are solutions of the equation
a*M1 + b*M2 + c*M3 + d*M4 = 0, where M1 etc are the 2x2 matrices in your first post, and NOTof the equation -2a -2b + 4/3 c = d.

The a, b, c, and d values should tell you which matrix is a linear combination of the others.
 
Going from the 4 equations/unknowns to the matrix I made a silly mistake causing the row reduced matrix to be incorrect.

The (I think) correct row reduced matrix is

[tex] \left[\begin{array}{ccccc}<br /> 1&0&0&3 \\<br /> 0&1&0&1 \\<br /> 0&0&1&1 \\<br /> 0&0&0&0 \end{array}\right][/tex]

From here, I thought I would read out of the matrix the following equations:

[tex]a = -3d[/tex]
[tex]b = -d[/tex]
[tex]c = -d[/tex]
where d is any arbitrary constant.

Assigning d = 1, and checking to see if [tex]a * M1 + b * M2 + c * M3[/tex] was in fact [tex]d * M4[/tex], I end up with exactly the wrong signs:

[tex]-3\left[\begin{array}{cc}1&1\\2&1\end{array}\right] + -1\left[\begin{array}{cc}1&0\\0&2\end{array}\right] + -1\left[\begin{array}{cc}0&3\\2&1\end{array}\right] = \left[\begin{array}{cc}-4&-6\\-8&-6\end{array}\right][/tex]

This must mean that a should equal 3d, b should equal d, c should equal d, without the negatives, but I do not understand why.
 
After thinking about it more, I guess that the a, b, c columns should be partitioned from the d column since I intend to write d * M4 in terms of the other matrices and their respective coefficients.

This would explain the sign error from before.

Can someone confirm?
 
Yes, that's the problem. The a, b, c, and d are coefficients in this equation:
a*M1 + b*M2 + c*M3 + d*M4 = 0. I checked and they work out.
 

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