Linear Algebra: linear transformation

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The discussion revolves around finding the matrix representation of a linear transformation that corresponds to a 90-degree rotation about the x-axis in R^3. Participants are exploring the implications of this transformation on the standard basis vectors.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the transformation of basis vectors T(e1), T(e2), and T(e3) under the specified rotation. There is an emphasis on visualizing the rotation in the yz-plane and determining the new positions of the basis vectors after the transformation.

Discussion Status

The conversation has progressed with participants attempting to identify the images of the basis vectors under the transformation. Some guidance has been provided regarding the visualization of the rotation and the expected outcomes for T(e3). However, there is still some uncertainty regarding T(e2) and its correct transformation.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of standard basis vectors and the specific rotation about the x-axis. There is an ongoing discussion about the correct interpretation of the transformation's effects on these vectors.

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Homework Statement


let A be the matrix corresponding to the linear transformation from R^3 to R^3 that is rotation of 90 degrees about the x-axis

Homework Equations


find the matrix A

The Attempt at a Solution


I got stuck on rotating z component.

I tried T([e1,e2,e3])=[0 -1 0]
[1 0 0]
[0 0 -1]
I am sure this is not right
 
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HaLAA said:

Homework Statement


let A be the matrix corresponding to the linear transformation from R^3 to R^3 that is rotation of 90 degrees about the axis

About which axis in particular ? :-)
 
slider142 said:
About which axis in particular ? :)
about the x-axis, sorry
 
HaLAA said:
about the x-axis, sorry
Okay. The first step of determining the matrix of a linear transformation in a particular basis is to first determine where each basis vector goes. So we first make a list. What are [itex]T(e_1), T(e_2),[/itex] and [itex]T(e_3)[/itex] ?

Edit: If this is the part you are having trouble with, maneuver your imaginary coordinate axes so that the positive x-axis is pointing straight out of the page, so we are looking down at the yz-plane. The positive z-axis, and thus [itex]e_3[/itex] points right and the positive y-axis, and thus [itex]e_2[/itex], points up. Rotation of vectors by positive angles occurs counterclockwise. Take [itex]e_3[/itex], and rotate it counterclockwise by 90 degrees. It should end up on the y-axis. This is [itex]T(e_3)[/itex]. What is it in component form ?
 

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slider142 said:
Okay. The first step of determining the matrix of a linear transformation in a particular basis is to first determine where each basis vector goes. So we first make a list. What are [itex]T(e_1), T(e_2),[/itex] and [itex]T(e_3)[/itex] ?

Edit: If this is the part you are having trouble with, maneuver your imaginary coordinate axes so that the positive x-axis is pointing straight out of the page, so we are looking down at the yz-plane. The positive z-axis, and thus [itex]e_3[/itex] points right and the positive y-axis, and thus [itex]e_2[/itex], points up. Rotation of vectors by positive angles occurs counterclockwise. Take [itex]e_3[/itex], and rotate it counterclockwise by 90 degrees. It should end up on the y-axis. This is [itex]T(e_3)[/itex]. What is it in component form ?
T(e3)=(0,0,1)
 
slider142 said:
Okay. The first step of determining the matrix of a linear transformation in a particular basis is to first determine where each basis vector goes. So we first make a list. What are [itex]T(e_1), T(e_2),[/itex] and [itex]T(e_3)[/itex] ?
HaLAA said:
T(e3)=(0,0,1)
Hmm, that can't be true, since [itex]e_3 = (0, 0, 1)[/itex] in the standard basis. Remember we are going to rotate this vector counterclockwise in the yz-plane, so its image after the transformation will be a different vector. Just to make sure we're on the same page, the standard basis is [itex]e_1 = (1, 0, 0), e_2 = (0, 1, 0),[/itex] and [itex]e_3 = (0, 0, 1)[/itex].
Now, the first attached image is meant to be a viewpoint where the positive x-axis, and thus [itex]e_1[/itex], is pointing out of the page. So we cannot see the x-axis from this viewpoint: it is directly above the origin of the yz-plane. The positive z-axis, and thus [itex]e_3 = (0, 0, 1)[/itex] points right, while the positive y-axis, and thus [itex]e_2 = (0, 1, 0)[/itex] points up. The diagram shows the counterclockwise direction of the rotation by 90 degrees and its magnitude.
The second illustration shows that when we rotate [itex]e_3[/itex] counterclockwise by 90 degrees in this plane, it coincides with [itex]e_2[/itex]. So the components of the new vector [itex]T(e_3)[/itex] are (0, 1, 0). Does that make sense so far?
 

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slider142 said:
Hmm, that can't be true, since [itex]e_3 = (0, 0, 1)[/itex] in the standard basis. Remember we are going to rotate this vector counterclockwise in the yz-plane, so its image after the transformation will be a different vector. Just to make sure we're on the same page, the standard basis is [itex]e_1 = (1, 0, 0), e_2 = (0, 1, 0),[/itex] and [itex]e_3 = (0, 0, 1)[/itex].
Now, the first attached image is meant to be a viewpoint where the positive x-axis, and thus [itex]e_1[/itex], is pointing out of the page. So we cannot see the x-axis from this viewpoint: it is directly above the origin of the yz-plane. The positive z-axis, and thus [itex]e_3 = (0, 0, 1)[/itex] points right, while the positive y-axis, and thus [itex]e_2 = (0, 1, 0)[/itex] points up. The diagram shows the counterclockwise direction of the rotation by 90 degrees and its magnitude.
The second illustration shows that when we rotate [itex]e_3[/itex] counterclockwise by 90 degrees in this plane, it coincides with [itex]e_2[/itex]. So the components of the new vector [itex]T(e_3)[/itex] are (0, 1, 0). Does that make sense so far?
I got it. thank you so much
 
HaLAA said:
I got it. thank you so much
Great! Are you able to complete the problem from there?
 
slider142 said:
Great! Are you able to complete the problem from there?
yes,T(e1)=(1,0,0),T(e2)=(0,-1,0),T(e3)=(0,1,0)
 
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HaLAA said:
yes,T(e1)=(1,0,0),T(e2)=(0,-1,0),T(e3)=(0,1,0)
Not quite! When you rotate [itex]e_2[/itex], the unit vector for the positive y-axis, by 90 degrees counterclockwise, you should end up on the negative z-axis, which is represented by [itex]-e_3[/itex] or (0, 0, -1). So [itex]T(e_2) = (0, 0, -1)[/itex]. These three vectors form the column vectors of the matrix that represents T with respect to this basis. You can then take the product of the matrix with each unit vector to check that you do get the correct outputs.
 

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