Linear Algebra problem using Row Operations

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the values of k for which a system of linear equations has a unique solution, no solution, or infinitely many solutions. The equations are presented in a matrix form, and participants are exploring row operations to analyze the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the necessity of row-reducing the matrix and the implications of k being equal to or different from zero. There are attempts to manipulate the matrix to find conditions for unique or infinite solutions, with some questioning the requirement for reduced echelon form.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being suggested. Some participants have provided guidance on separating cases based on the value of k, while others emphasize the flexibility in achieving a triangular form rather than strict reduced echelon form. There is no explicit consensus yet on the best method to proceed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential complications arising from denominators involving k during row operations, which may affect the analysis of the system's solutions.

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Homework Statement



Determine the values of k for which the system of linear equations has (i) a unique solution, (ii) no solution, (iii) infinitely many solutions. Write down the complete solution in cases (i) and (iii):
x + y + kz = 1
x + ky + z = 1
kx + y + z = 1

Homework Equations



Tried sticking it into a matrix:

[1 1 k | 1]
[1 k 1 | 1]
[k 1 1 | 1]

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm aware I then need to get that matrix into some sort of Reduced Echelon Form so I can analyse things from it. This is what I'm finding difficult as the best I can ever get is:

[(k+2) (k+2) (k+2) | 3]
[ 0 (k-1) (k-1) | 0]
[ 1 1 k |1]

That's not even close to be honest.

I can already see that k=1 is when there's an infinite solution (as is pretty obvious) but even that I can't actually prove.

Any guidance would be a appreciated, thank you :).
 
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row-reduction isn't a bad idea, but the matrix you have isn't row-reduced. for example, you don't have a leading 1 in the first row, and you should.

you're going to have to divide by stuff, and of course, since your denominators will contain expressions in k, there's always the chance that when these expressions = 0, your system will "blow up" so be sure to check these cases separately.
 
Fluorescent said:

Homework Statement



Determine the values of k for which the system of linear equations has (i) a unique solution, (ii) no solution, (iii) infinitely many solutions. Write down the complete solution in cases (i) and (iii):
x + y + kz = 1
x + ky + z = 1
kx + y + z = 1

Homework Equations



Tried sticking it into a matrix:

[1 1 k | 1]
[1 k 1 | 1]
[k 1 1 | 1]

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm aware I then need to get that matrix into some sort of Reduced Echelon Form so I can analyse things from it. This is what I'm finding difficult as the best I can ever get is:

[(k+2) (k+2) (k+2) | 3]
[ 0 (k-1) (k-1) | 0]
[ 1 1 k |1]

That's not even close to be honest.

I can already see that k=1 is when there's an infinite solution (as is pretty obvious) but even that I can't actually prove.

Any guidance would be a appreciated, thank you :).

As Deveno has indicated, you need to separate k = 0 from k ≠ 0, and do them separately. For the case k≠0 you can start with the easier system with augmented matrix
[[k 1 1 1],[k k^2 k k],[k,k k^2 k]], where this means [row1,row2,row3]. After subtracting row 1 from the others you will have [[k 1 1],[0 k^2-1 k-1 k-1],[0 k-1 k^2-1 k-1]]. Now you need to separate k = 1 and k ≠ 1 before continuing, if you need to continue at all. I disagree with the supposed requirement of getting a reduced echelon form: that is not necessary for answering the question; it is perfectly OK to have k instead of 1 in the top left, provided that k is not 0.

RGV
 
Ray Vickson said:
As Deveno has indicated, you need to separate k = 0 from k ≠ 0, and do them separately. For the case k≠0 you can start with the easier system with augmented matrix
[[k 1 1 1],[k k^2 k k],[k,k k^2 k]], where this means [row1,row2,row3]. After subtracting row 1 from the others you will have [[k 1 1],[0 k^2-1 k-1 k-1],[0 k-1 k^2-1 k-1]]. Now you need to separate k = 1 and k ≠ 1 before continuing, if you need to continue at all. I disagree with the supposed requirement of getting a reduced echelon form: that is not necessary for answering the question; it is perfectly OK to have k instead of 1 in the top left, provided that k is not 0.

RGV

to be fair, getting upper (or lower) triangular is good enough. at least then, we can "back-substitute".

getting to rref just makes the solution "transparent". i suppose it's a matter of what works for you.
 

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