Linear Algebra Proof (vector spaces and spans)

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The problem involves proving that if ℝ^{n} is the span of a set of vectors, then a nonzero matrix multiplied by at least one of those vectors results in a nonzero vector. The subject area is linear algebra, focusing on vector spaces and spans.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the definition of span and question the consequences of assuming that the matrix product results in zero vectors. There is an exploration of the relationship between the vectors in the span and their ability to represent elements of ℝ^{n}.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with hints and clarifications regarding the definitions involved. There is a recognition of the need to understand the implications of the span and the properties of vector spaces, but no consensus has been reached on the specific approach to the proof.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions and properties related to spans and vector spaces, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge that may be influencing their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement



If [itex]ℝ^{n}=span(X_{1},X_{2},...,X_{k})[/itex] and A is a nonzero m x n matrix, show that [itex]AX_{i}≠0[/itex] for some i.

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Hey guys, I'm way over my head here. I really don't know how to approach this problem. I would really appreciate it if someone could give a nudge in the right direction as to where to start.
 
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hi jmm! :smile:

hint: suppose every Axi = 0 :wink:

(and remember the definition of span)
 
If every AXi=0 that would mean that Xi=0 for all i, right? And a set of all 0 vectors would not span Rn, right? ...so that would be impossible? Haha I'm really having trouble wrapping my head around this.

Thanks for your reply by the way!
 
jmm said:
If every AXi=0 that would mean that Xi=0 for all i, right?

nooo :redface:

what is the definition of span = ℝn? :smile:
 
Does it mean that all of the linear combinations of vectors in the span form the space Rn?
 
what does it mean about any individual vector? :smile:
 
Ummmm, I really don't know :(
 
look it up! :rolleyes:

(remember, we're talking about vector spaces :wink:)
 
Oh, believe me, I've been looking it up for the past 8 hours haha. Everything I've seen has it defined in terms of combinations of many vectors.
 
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in a vector space, you can express any vector as … ?
 
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I don't know that one either. I mean I probably do but I can't figure out where you're trying to lead me :)

And I thought another linear algebra course would be good for me!
 
  • #12
hint: basis :wink:
 

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