Linear Dependence and Span Question

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The discussion revolves around determining the linear dependence or independence of the set {e^x, e^{-x}} within the context of the vector space C∞(R), which consists of functions with infinitely continuous derivatives. Participants also explore whether this set can span the given space.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the criteria for linear dependence, with one suggesting a contradiction approach involving coefficients as constants rather than functions of x. There is also exploration of the implications of the infinite dimensionality of C∞(R) and the necessity of more functions to span this space.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem, particularly regarding the nature of coefficients in linear combinations and the implications of infinite dimensionality. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the spanning of the vector space.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the definitions and assumptions related to linear combinations and the nature of the vector space C∞(R). Participants question the sufficiency of the given functions to span the space, noting that a larger set may be required.

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Homework Statement


Is the following set linearly dependent or independent? And does this set span the given space?
{eX, e-x}\inC(R)

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So, if it's linearly independent, then:
k1ex +k2e-x = 0 where k1,k2=0 and only 0. But if you let k1= -1/(e^x) and k2 = 1, then you also get 0, so this set is linearly dependent. I believe I am correct with this logic.

Now how do I go about checking whether the set is in the span of the vector space?
 
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Nexttime35 said:
But if you let k1= -1/(e^x) and k2 = 1, then you also get 0, so this set is linearly dependent. I believe I am correct with this logic.

The coefficients in the linear combination must be numbers, not functions of ##x##. You should approach the problem by making the assumption that for some numbers ##a,b##, the function ##f(x) = ae^{x}+be^{-x}## is zero for any value of ##x##. Then derive a contradiction, the function must be nonzero at some point.

The set ##C^{\infty}(\mathbb{R})## is infinite dimensional. You can't span it with only two functions.
 
Ahh, ok, that makes sense. Thank you for the help. I'll see what I can do!
 
So, deriving f(x)=ae^x+be^-x I get f'(x) = ae^x -be^-x, and f''(x) = ae^x+b^-x, so I'm back to the original function with the second derivative, and so forth. When proving linear dependence with functions, I understand that I need to show f(x) = 0 for any x, and where a,b≠0. Is that correct?
 
If ##a## and ##b## are nonzero numbers, one of the terms ##ae^{x}##, ##be^{-x}## grows without bound in absolute value and the other one approaches zero when ##x \rightarrow \infty##. From this it follows that the function ##f(x)## must be nonzero for some ##x##. You just have to express this in a more exact way to make it a real mathematical proof.
 
Gotcha. I follow. Thanks for your help, hilbert2.
 
One more question: is C(R) represents the vector space of functions with infinitely continuous derivatives, then why wouldn't the above functions in that set span that vector space? Don't those functions have infinitely continuous derivatives?
 
Nexttime35 said:
One more question: is C(R) represents the vector space of functions with infinitely continuous derivatives, then why wouldn't the above functions in that set span that vector space? Don't those functions have infinitely continuous derivatives?

Saying that a set of functions {##f_{1},f_{2},f_{3},\dots##} spans the space ##A## means that any function in ##A## can be represented as a linear combination of functions ##f_{i}##. This is clearly not the case here. You need a set of infinitely many functions to span ##C^{\infty}(\mathbb{R})##.
 

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