Linear expansion by heat for an object

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The discussion revolves around the concept of linear expansion due to heat, specifically focusing on how the dimensions of an object change with temperature. Participants are attempting to interpret a problem statement related to this topic, which has been presented through images that some find difficult to read.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are trying to clarify the problem statement and the implications of thermal expansion, particularly regarding the behavior of a hole in a heated plate. There are discussions about whether the diameter of the hole increases or decreases with temperature changes.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing clarification regarding the problem statement, with some participants expressing difficulty in reading the provided images. A few have begun to explore the principles of thermal expansion, although there is no clear consensus on the interpretation of the problem or the expected outcomes.

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Participants have noted issues with the quality of the images provided, which has hindered their ability to engage fully with the problem. There is also mention of an upcoming exam, which may affect the frequency of participation.

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Homework Statement


swYr8aw.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/swYr8aw.jpg

Homework Equations



delta L=LalphadeltaT

The Attempt at a Solution


sorry for s**ty handwriting look at #8[/B]
59Ew8vJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/59Ew8vJ.jpg

edit:click the links please. The forum software cropped the quality of the photo.
 

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I cannot read the problem statement. If I blow it up large enough to be read it is just a blur.
 
haruspex said:
I cannot read the problem statement. If I blow it up large enough to be read it is just a blur.
fixed problem
 
ehf said:
fixed problem
The linked image is hardly any better. Why not take a closer shot instead of leaving all that whitespace?
 
pf prob.png


That's the best I can do with computer enhancement .

I could not do much with the other image .
 
Nidum said:
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That's the best I can do with computer enhancement .

I could not do much with the other image .
Much better. I concur with both answers.
 
haruspex said:
Much better. I concur with both answers.
Nidum said:
View attachment 204449

That's the best I can do with computer enhancement .

I could not do much with the other image .
The imgur link should be just fine. I can read it on all magnification. The server cropped the displaying image whatever i did
 
@ehf . We understand the question now .

This type of problem comes up frequently and once you understand one simple principle solving these problems becomes easy and usually requires little calculation .

Consider a square plate with a round hole in it - do you think that the hole gets larger or smaller in diameter when the plate is heated ?
 
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smaller because of expansion @Nidum
(i have an exam coming up so i may not access frequently...)
 
  • #10
Nidum said:
Consider a square plate with a round hole in it - do you think that the hole gets larger or smaller in diameter when the plate is heated ?

ehf said:
smaller
I must be missing something.
My reading of the answer to a) at the link, messy as it is, is that the gap increases, which is correct.
@Nidum's post #8 implies that at some point in @ehf's posts it is stated that the gap will shrink, but I cannot find such.
In response to the direct question from Nidum, ehf says that a gap would shrink.
@Nidum, what made you suspect ehf would answer wrongly?
 
  • #11
I was working towards explaining the basic physics of expansion . In particular that gaps expand in the same way as solid metal .

I was still having difficulty reading ehf's writing when I made that posting .
 
  • #12
my fault...it doesn't shrink anywhere...only stretches
well please do not use the image on the thread. imgur images are almost megabytes while the images on the forum are kilobytes
im sorry i can't convert it to text now
 

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