Linear Momentum Pellet Gun Problem

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The discussion revolves around a linear momentum problem involving a pellet gun, where a pellet becomes embedded in a piece of cheese resting on ice. The scenario includes calculating the coefficient of friction after determining the velocities involved in an inelastic collision.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and the application of kinematics to find acceleration due to friction. There are attempts to clarify the calculations related to initial and final velocities, as well as the use of Newton's second law to find the coefficient of friction.

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The discussion includes various calculations and corrections regarding the velocities and accelerations involved. Some participants provide guidance on ensuring accuracy in calculations and the relevance of certain values post-collision. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between forces and motion in this context.

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Participants note the importance of not rounding off intermediate calculations and question the assumptions made regarding the forces acting on the system, particularly in relation to friction and motion.

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Bored, a boy shoots his pellet gun at a piece of cheese that sits, keeping cool for dinner guests, on a massive block of ice. On one particular shot, his 1.1 g pellet gets stuck in the cheese, causing it to slide 25 cm before coming to a stop. If the muzzle velocity of the gun is 76 m/s and the cheese has a mass of 136 g, what is the coefficient of friction between the cheese and ice?

Relevant equations:
Momentum = Mass * Velocity

This would be an example of an inelastic collision where the two objects stick together.
The KE is not conserved.

I converted the mass of the pellet and the cheese to kg.
Mass of pellet = .0011kg
Mass of cheese = .136kg

Momentum of the pellet = .0011kg * 76m/s = .0836 kg m/s
The momentum will be conserved because there is no external forces.

This is as far as I got, can someone tell me how should I approach this next?
Thanks.
 
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Since momentum is conserved, find the speed of the cheese+pellet immediately after the collision. Then apply some kinematics to find the acceleration due to friction.
 
So I have mass of the pellet * Vi = mass of pellet + mass of cheese * Vf
.0011kg * .76m/s = (.0011kg + .136kg) * Vf
Vf = .61m/s

The only kinematics equation that do not deal with time is
Vf^2 = Vi^2 + 2 * A * D
I converted 25cm to .25m to be consistent

(.61m/s)^2 = (.76m/s)^2 + 2 * A * (.25m)
I got A = -.41m/s

Is this right to have a negative acc.?

If this is all right, do I continue with Newtons 2nd law to solve for the coefficient of friction?
F = MA?
 
maniacp08 said:
So I have mass of the pellet * Vi = mass of pellet + mass of cheese * Vf
.0011kg * .76m/s = (.0011kg + .136kg) * Vf
Vf = .61m/s
Your formula is correct, but redo your calculation being careful with the decimal point.

The only kinematics equation that do not deal with time is
Vf^2 = Vi^2 + 2 * A * D
I converted 25cm to .25m to be consistent
Good.

(.61m/s)^2 = (.76m/s)^2 + 2 * A * (.25m)
I got A = -.41m/s
Several problems: The speed immediately after the collision becomes your initial velocity for this part of the problem. After the collision, the .76 m/s is no longer relevant. What's the final speed of the block of cheese?

Is this right to have a negative acc.?
Sure. That just means the cheese was slowing down.

If this is all right, do I continue with Newtons 2nd law to solve for the coefficient of friction?
F = MA?
Yes.
 
Yeah, I put it as .76m/s instead of 76m/s =[ Clumsy me.

The new final velocity would be 0 since it eventually stops.
0 = (.61m/s)^2 + 2 * A * (.25m)
I have A = -.74m/s

2nd part I have the forces in the Y direction:
Fn = MG where M = mass of cheese + mass of pellet
Fn = (.1371)kg*(9.81)m/s = 1.3J

The forces in the X direction:
There is just the force of friction correct?
so is
-Uk(Fn) = M * A
-Uk(1.3J) = .1371kg * (-.74m/s)
Uk = .08

Am I correct?
 
My only suggestion is not to round off intermediate calculations--wait until the last step. Other than that, perfect!
 
Thanks Doc for your help =].
 

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