Linear Operators: Proving Determinant Property

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The discussion revolves around proving the property of determinants for linear operators, specifically that for linear operators S and T on a vector space V, the determinant of their composition satisfies det(SoT) = det(S)det(T).

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to express the composition of the operators in terms of a basis and linear combinations but is unsure how to proceed. Other participants question the definition of the determinant and the assumptions regarding linear operators.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationship between the determinants of the operators and discussing the necessary steps to show that the two expressions for the determinant agree. Some guidance has been offered regarding the tedious nature of the proof and the approach of showing that certain expressions cancel out.

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There is mention of prior discussions on the topic, and some participants express skepticism about certain resources for learning linear algebra. The original poster has referenced a specific book, indicating a potential gap in shared knowledge among participants.

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i need to prove the next statement:
let S and T be linear operators on a vector space V, then det(SoT)=det(S)det(T).

my way is this:
let v belong to V, and {e_i} be a basis of V
v=e1u1+...+e_nu_n
then T(v)=e1T(u1)+...+enT(un)
(SoT)(v)=S(T(v))=S(e1T(u1)+...+enT(un))=e1S(T(u1))+...+enS(T(un))
but i don't know how to proceed from here.
 
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Wasn't there a far too long thread on this recently somewhere round here.

How have you defined the determinant, and what are you allowed to assume about linear operators?
 
the determinant is the sum on all permutations t=j1,...jn in Sn such that detA=
sum (sgn t) a1j1...anjn
t

and about linear operators:
i used linear combinations of the operator T because i learned it, you can also assume that i know ((-:) the algebra of linear operators i.e if F,G,H are operators then:
1)F(G+H)=FG+FH
2)(G+H)F=GF+HF
3)k(GF)=(kG)F=G(kF)
where k is scalar.

basically if you know schaum series book for linear algebra then i went through chapters from 1-8.
 
I don't know Schaum from personal experience; from what I can tell from other people's it's a waste of money, and I have no desire to buy a copy, if it's even avaliable in the UK.

So you just need to show that the two expressions you have, one for Det(ST) and one for Det(S)Det(T), agree. It is not hard but it is tedious; bookkeeping some people call it.

Det(S)Det(T) is gong to be a big horrible mess, and it will contain the expression Det(ST), it just remains to show that the rest cancels, or is zero. Remember that often be the best way to show X is zero is to show X=-X (I can't recall if that is exactly what happens here; it is some time since I proved this fact).
 
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