Linear Systems Question (Several Parts)

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on solving the linear differential equation y''(t) + 2y'(t) + y(t) = u(t) with initial conditions y(0^-) = 1 and y'(0^-) = 2. The user initially derived the zero-state response y(t) = (1 - te^{-t} - e^{-t})u(t) but struggled to find the zero-input response. The solution involves adjusting the derived function to satisfy the initial conditions, ultimately leading to the complete response y(t) = 2 + 4t - (t + 1)e^{-t}. MATLAB was suggested as a tool for verifying the solution through graphical comparison.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of linear differential equations
  • Familiarity with Laplace transforms
  • Knowledge of zero-state and zero-input responses
  • Experience with MATLAB for simulation and verification
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the derivation of zero-input responses in linear systems
  • Learn about the complete response of linear time-invariant systems
  • Explore MATLAB functions for simulating differential equations
  • Review the properties of the Laplace transform in solving initial value problems
USEFUL FOR

Students and professionals in engineering, particularly those studying control systems, signal processing, or applied mathematics, will benefit from this discussion.

EugP
Messages
104
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



Find the complete response of the system represented by

y''(t)+2y'(t)+y(t)=u(t),

y(0^-)=1,

y'(0^-)=2

and identify the zro-state and zero-input response components. Find the system transfer function and the system impulse response.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution




I thought I solved for the complete response, but apparently what I got was just the zero-state response. I thought that by taking the laplace transform of the whole function, I will get the complete response. I then remembered that I need to have both zero-state and zero-input responses to get complete response, but I don't know how to find zero-input response.

Here's what I did:

y''(t)+2y'(t)+y(t)=u(t)

s^2Y(s)-f(0^-)-f^{(1)}(0^-)+2sY(s)-f(0^-)+Y(s)=\frac{1}{s}

Y(s)[s^2+2s+1]-f(0^-)-f^{(1)}(0^-)-f(0^-)=\frac{1}{s}

Y(s)[s^2+2s+1]-1+2-1=\frac{1}{s}

Y(s)[s^2+2s+1]=\frac{1}{s}

Y(s)=\frac{1}{s(s^2+2s+1)}

At this point I thought this was already the complete response only in it's transformed for, so now I took the inverse laplace and got:

y(t)=(1-te^{-t}-e^{-t})u(t)

which is what the answer is for the zero-state response, not complete response.
So I tried figure out the zero-input response, but I just don't even know where to start. I looked everywhere and I can't seem to find the way to find it. Once I find the zero-input response, I will probably be able to solve the rest by myself.

Can anyone please tell me how to find the zero-input response?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Why can't you solve for the initial conditions analytically? Like plug in zero for t in your current solution and then solve for the initial conditions? For example:

The first initial condition is y(0) = 1;

y(0) = 1 -( (0) + 1 )e^{(0)} = 1 - 1

So add 1 to the equation to get satisfy the first condition.

For the second one if you plug in zero into the derivative of your equation you will get -2, so add 4t to the equation so that when you take the derivative you get +4 and it won't mess with the first condition.

This could be horribly wrong, but you can test it easily enough in MATLAB by taking the new function of t:

y(t) = 2 + 4t -(t + 1)e^{-t}

and graphing it and comparing vs. step() of the original (zero initial condition) function.
 
Last edited:
Thanks for the reply, I figured out the solution.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
23
Views
6K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K