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Logarithmic functions are limited to positive real numbers, making the logarithm of a negative base, like -10, problematic. The expression log_{-10}(100) does not equal 2 because logarithmic functions are defined as inverses of exponentials, which cannot accommodate negative bases in the real number system. When considering complex numbers, the logarithm can yield multiple values, complicating the interpretation. Specifically, log_{-10}(100) can be expressed in terms of complex logarithms, resulting in a non-unique solution. Ultimately, while 2 can be one of the values, it is not the only result, highlighting the complexity of logarithms with negative bases.
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Negative number multiplied by itself an even number of times gives us a positive number.

Why does log to -10 base of 100 not equal 2?

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You cannot extend that to a function over anything apart from a few selected integers. How would that be useful?
 
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Logarithmic functions are the inverse of exponentials and are limited to positive reals only for log bases and for log arguments and the base can't be equal to 1. Hence you're not going to see a negative base:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logarithm
 
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Bipolar Demon said:
Why does log to -10 base of 100 not equal 2?
Your question only makes sense in the complex domain, so:
\log_{-10}(100)=\frac{\log(100)}{\log(-10)}=\frac{2\cdot \log(10)}{\log(10)+(2n+1)\pi i} where n is an integer (the complex logarithm is not single-valued). Thus, even if you put n=0, the answer is not going to be 2.
 
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mfb said:
You cannot extend that to a function over anything apart from a few selected integers. How would that be useful?
ok
Svein said:
Your question only makes sense in the complex domain, so:
\log_{-10}(100)=\frac{\log(100)}{\log(-10)}=\frac{2\cdot \log(10)}{\log(10)+(2n+1)\pi i} where n is an integer (the complex logarithm is not single-valued). Thus, even if you put n=0, the answer is not going to be 2.

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Svein's post is a more mathematical version of "you could not extend this to anything useful" - you would run into weird results everywhere.
 
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On reflection, my answer is too simple, a more correct answer is \log_{-10}(100)=\frac{\log(100)}{\log(-10)}=\frac{2\cdot \log(10)+2m\pi i}{\log(10)+(2n+1)\pi i} where m and n are integers. The expression can be simplified somewhat, but none of the results are going to be 2.
 
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ok:biggrin::check:
 
Bipolar Demon said:
Why does log to -10 base of 100 not equal 2?
Just as a side comment, what you wrote is not clear. It would be clearer as ##\log_{-10}(100)## or in words as "log, base -10, of 100".
 
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Svein said:
On reflection, my answer is too simple, a more correct answer is \log_{-10}(100)=\frac{\log(100)}{\log(-10)}=\frac{2\cdot \log(10)+2m\pi i}{\log(10)+(2n+1)\pi i} where m and n are integers. The expression can be simplified somewhat, but none of the results are going to be 2.

Take ##m=1## and ##n=0##, you do get

\frac{2\cdot \log(10)+2\pi i}{\log(10)+\pi i} = 2 \frac{\log(10)+\pi i}{\log(10)+\pi i} = 2

So ##2## is a value of ##\log_{-10}(100)##, as it should be. But it's not the only value.
 
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micromass said:
Take ##m=1## and ##n=0##, you do get

\frac{2\cdot \log(10)+2\pi i}{\log(10)+\pi i} = 2 \frac{\log(10)+\pi i}{\log(10)+\pi i} = 2

So ##2## is a value of ##\log_{-10}(100)##, as it should be. But it's not the only value.
:-pTalk about missing the obvious. One demerit for me!
 

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