Logical Implication: Evaluating Truth of Claims

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the truth of two logical claims involving implications and disjunctions in propositional logic. Participants explore the definitions and relationships between logical implications, particularly focusing on the conditions under which certain implications hold true or false.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that if \[\alpha \models (\beta \rightarrow \gamma)\], then it follows that \[\alpha, \beta \models \gamma\], based on the definitions of logical implication and the connective \[\rightarrow\].
  • Another participant questions whether the implication \[\alpha \vee \beta \models \gamma\] can be derived from the first claim, suggesting a need for further exploration.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the validity of the claims and inquires about the possibility of using truth tables for clarification.
  • A participant proposes a specific case where \[\gamma\] is defined as \[\alpha \land \beta\] to illustrate the implications involved.
  • Another participant concludes that the implication \[\alpha \lor \beta \not\models \alpha \land \beta\] generally does not hold, emphasizing the requirement for both \(\alpha\) and \(\beta\) to be true in the context of conjunction, while disjunction only requires one to be true.
  • A later reply notes that if \(\alpha\) and \(\beta\) are formulas, the implication may sometimes be true, particularly when both are tautologies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of the second claim, with some suggesting it does not hold true in general, while others explore specific conditions under which it might. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the second claim.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their reasoning, particularly regarding the use of truth tables and the definitions of logical operators. The discussion also highlights the dependency on the nature of \(\alpha\), \(\beta\), and \(\gamma\) as formulas versus propositional variables.

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Hello all,

I am trying to find if the following two claims are true or false:

1) If
\[\alpha \models \left ( \beta \rightarrow \gamma \right )\]
then
\[\alpha ,\beta \models \gamma\]

2) If
\[\alpha \models \left ( \beta \rightarrow \gamma \right )\]
then
\[\alpha \vee \beta \models \gamma\]

where \[\models\] is logical implication, meaning that if everything on the left side of the operator is T, then whatever on the right side is also T.

I cannot build truth tables, because \[\alpha ,\beta ,\gamma\] are not necessarily atoms.

Thank you in advance.
 
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Yankel said:
1) If
\[\alpha \models \left ( \beta \rightarrow \gamma \right )\]
then
\[\alpha ,\beta \models \gamma\]
This holds by definition of $\models$ and $\to$. Suppose $\alpha\models \beta\to\gamma$. This means that for every interpretation $I$, if $I\models\alpha$, then $I\models\beta\to\gamma$. But the latter statement means that if $I\models\beta$, then $I\models\gamma$. Thus, if $I\models\alpha$ and $I\models\beta$, then $I\models\gamma$, or $\alpha,\beta\models\gamma$.

In general, $\alpha\models\beta$ iff $\models\alpha\to\beta$ (i.e., $\alpha\to\beta$ is true in every interpretation). In this sense, the connective $\to$ formalizes (i.e., is an analog on the level of the formal language being studied) the concept of logical implication $\models$. Also, $\alpha\land\beta\to\gamma$ is equivalent to $\alpha\to(\beta\to\gamma)$, i.e., these formulas are true in the same interpretations.

Yankel said:
2) If
\[\alpha \models \left ( \beta \rightarrow \gamma \right )\]
then
\[\alpha \vee \beta \models \gamma\]
According to the above, $\alpha\models\beta\to\gamma$ is equivalent to $\alpha\land\beta\models\gamma$. Can you decide if this implies $\alpha\lor\beta\models\gamma$ and vice versa?
 
I am not sure. Is there a way to see it using a truth table?
 
Consider when $\gamma$ is $\alpha\land\beta$.
 
I see what you mean, so it ain't true, is it ? I need both \alpha and \beta to be true, while \lor requires that at least one is true, not necessarily both.
 
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Yankel said:
I see what you mean, so it ain't true, is it ? I need both \alpha and \beta to be true, while \lor requires that at least one is true, not necessarily both.
You are right, $$\alpha\lor\beta\not\models\alpha\land\beta$$ in general, in particular, when $\alpha$ and $\beta$ are propositional variables. If $\alpha$ and $\beta$ are formulas, this implication may sometimes be true, for example, when $\alpha$ and $\beta$ are tautologies.
 

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