Longest piece of classical music changes chords today

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The discussion revolves around the piece "As Slow As Possible," which features an extremely slow chord progression that changes infrequently. Participants explore the nature of this composition, its classification as classical music, and the broader implications of such a work in the context of contemporary music and aesthetics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the chord change from D# A# E to G# E is significant, with the next change scheduled for February 5, 2022.
  • Several participants question the purpose and meaning behind the piece, with some expressing skepticism about its classification as classical music.
  • There are inquiries about the experience of listening to the piece at different speeds, with some suggesting that it could be perceived differently when sped up.
  • One participant compares the sound of the piece to the noise of traffic, suggesting it lacks musicality.
  • Another participant reflects on John Cage's appreciation for ambient sounds, relating it to the current discussion about the piece.
  • Questions arise regarding the melody and harmony in the piece, with some suggesting that the lower notes serve more as ambient sound rather than traditional melody.
  • There is a mention of Brian Eno's admiration for John Cage, indicating a perspective that challenges conventional notions of music and noise.

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Participants express a range of opinions, with no clear consensus on the value or classification of the piece. Some appreciate its uniqueness, while others find it lacking in musicality. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the piece's significance and the nature of its sound.

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Participants express varying assumptions about what constitutes music and how it should be experienced, highlighting a lack of agreement on definitions and interpretations.

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the d# a# e chord held since 2013 will change today to g# e. The next chord change is February 5, 2022. The piece will end in 620 years on Sep 5, 2640

https://www.aslsp.org/de/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible
 
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I have one question... why is this a thing?
 
etotheipi said:
I have one question... why is this a thing?

partly because people will ask that question
 
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Used to get something similar on the TV when the station went off air.
 
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etotheipi said:
I have one question... why is this a thing?

That happens with excess funding...
 
I am curious as to how this can be meaningfully described as classical.
As to music, well, I guess you can bend the definition a bit to meet the composition.
 
Has anyone listened to it sped up?

It could be music for the Gods(if it is any good)

Don't they have lifespans that span the ages?
 
geordief said:
Has anyone listened to it sped up?

It could be music for the Gods(if it is any good)

Don't they have lifespans that span the ages?

here is a 30 minute realization, Sep 5 was the 15th chord change

 
Not bad.As the Dear Leader says "It is what it is"
 
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Played backwards you can here "Paul is dead" but very slowly...
 
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Perhaps I am insensitive to the contemporary musical aesthetic, or maybe it just needs to be sped up a bit more (which I doubt), but this evokes nothing more musical (to my possibly dysfunctional ear) than the cacophony of a late fall, late Sunday afternoon traffic jam on the New York State Thruway somewhere just north of the Harriman (exit 16) toll barrier (southbound).

http://www.thruway.ny.gov/oursystem/harriman/index.html
https://turnpikeinfo.com/view-exit.php?state=new-york&road_name=new-york-state-thruway&key=16_toll
http://www.thruway.ny.gov/travelers/map/text/twytextcameras.cgi?region=MHI87
http://empirestateroads.com/week/week41.html--diogenesNY
 
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i saw John Cage speak shortly before he died and he commented on how much he liked the traffic noise from his NYC apartment
 
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Manhattan traffic noise, very differentiated by neighborhood as it happens, has a very distinct, and in my opinion pleasant and alive quality (or rather qualities?) that I both enjoyed and miss greatly. The City never let's you forget that it is a very _living_ entity.

--diogenesNY
 
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diogenesNY said:
Manhattan traffic noise, very differentiated by neighborhood as it happens, has a very distinct, and in my opinion pleasant and alive quality (or rather qualities?) that I both enjoyed and miss greatly. The City never let's you forget that it is a very _living_ entity.

--diogenesNY
I spent all of 2 hours passing through Manhattan arriving in at JFK back in the 70s but enough for a chapter in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas had he needed the material.(bit of an exaggeration ,but maybe a page or two)

I saw its bad side. Leaving the States by way of Boston I stayed longer but it was similarly shocking.
 
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diogenesNY said:
Perhaps I am insensitive to the contemporary musical aesthetic...

Seems unfair to judge the piece without listening to the whole thing. Come back in the 27th century and we'll talk.
 
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hutchphd said:
Played backwards you can here "Paul is dead" but very slowly...
and John has a headache.
 
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BWV said:
here is a 30 minute realization, Sep 5 was the 15th chord change
At 28:50 to 29:00, I hear the distinct influence of Doug Ingle's organ from Iron Butterfly's In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida.
 
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BWV said:
the d# a# e chord held since 2013 will change today to g# e. The next chord change is February 5, 2022. The piece will end in 620 years on Sep 5, 2640

https://www.aslsp.org/de/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible
Would I be right to think that the melody in that progression is carried on the two highest notes of the two chords?

Iow does the melody in this instance go from E to E?

Is that how the human ear works normally?

Do the lower notes in chords mainly provide ambient sound and harmony/discord?
 
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geordief said:
Would I be right to think that the melody in that progression is carried on the two highest notes of the two chords?

Iow does the melody in this instance go from E to E?

Is that how the human ear works normally?

Do the lower notes in chords mainly provide ambient sound and harmony/discord?
The notes get held over, so the sound is always this clustery chord thing. The e's are an octave apart. There is not a traditional melody / harmony separation in this piece, its just ambient sound
 
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BWV said:
There is not a traditional melody / harmony separation

"John Cage could sure write a snappy little tune" said no-one ever.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
"John Cage could sure write a snappy little tune" said no-one ever.
Well Brian Eno is a fan and I am a fan** of Brian Eno.

According to him
" John Cage made you realize that there wasn’t a thing called noise, it was just music you hadn’t appreciated. "

**not a knowledgeable fan but I loved Talking Heads
 
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Here’s a fairly listenable example of Cage’s music:
 
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