Longevity of 120V- vs. 240V-wired motor?

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The discussion revolves around the longevity and performance of a dual-capacitor motor that can be wired for either 120V or 240V. Participants explore the implications of wiring configurations on motor performance, longevity, and maintenance considerations, touching on mechanical and electrical factors.

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  • One participant questions whether the performance and theoretical longevity of the motor would be the same regardless of whether it is wired for 120V or 240V.
  • Another participant suggests that for a specific motor, the choice of voltage may not significantly impact performance, emphasizing lower current draw at 240V as a potential benefit.
  • Concerns are raised about mechanical factors affecting longevity, including mechanical strength, vibration, insulation aging, and winding stability.
  • Anecdotal evidence is provided regarding an old roller coaster motor that has lasted for decades with minimal maintenance, suggesting that longevity can vary widely based on design and usage.
  • One participant cautions against assuming the motor will operate at its full power rating, noting that actual performance depends on blade loading.
  • Another participant highlights that capacitors may fail before bearings or windings, indicating a different aspect of motor longevity to consider.

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Participants express differing views on the impact of wiring voltage on motor longevity and performance. While some agree that the choice of voltage may not significantly affect the motor itself, others emphasize the importance of mechanical factors and specific use cases. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall implications of wiring configurations.

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Participants mention various factors that could influence motor longevity, including mechanical wear, electrical component failure, and operational conditions, without reaching a consensus on their relative importance.

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Wire motor for 120V or 240V?
The 2hp dual-capacitor motor on my bandsaw can be wired for either 220V (draws up to 10 amps) or 110V (draws up to 20 amps). I need to install a new circuit whichever I decide (30 amp circuit for the 110V configuration). Am I correct in assuming the performance of the motor, such as amount of torque in generates, would be the same whichever way I wire it? Is the theoretical longevity of the motor also the same?
 
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Honestly, for a specific motor (i.e. one that's already been designed and built), I don't think it matters. I might choose 240 for lower current in the walls, plugs, etc., but that has nothing to do with the motor. There are subtle differences between series and parallel connected windings, but it's the bearings that will probably kill your motor, not the windings.
 
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I think the longevity of a motor depends more on (a) mechanical strength and absence of vibrations, (b) effectiveness of aging insulation, and (c) the ability of the windings to resist shifting in their mounts.

As a teen, I worked in an amusement park. The roller coaster had a 4HP motor built around the year 1900. It was about 9 feet high and weighed several tons. It ran at 180 RPM (maybe 360). The only maintenance it ever had was a few drops of oil every year. It would be 120 years old today, and it could probably continue another 120 years.
 
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Summary:: Wire motor for 120V or 240V?

The 2hp dual-capacitor motor on my bandsaw can be wired for either 220V (draws up to 10 amps) or 110V (draws up to 20 amps). I need to install a new circuit whichever I decide (30 amp circuit for the 110V configuration). Am I correct in assuming the performance of the motor, such as amount of torque in generates, would be the same whichever way I wire it? Is the theoretical longevity of the motor also the same?
I agree with Dave,

The 240V connection will draw less current which could mean lower losses, however it really depends on what you have available. If the motor is designed for 120 or 240, then either will work. I also agree that the bearings would be the first thing to wear out before windings do.
 
You may be creating a false choice for yourself. Although your saw has a 2 HP motor, it won't necessarily operate at anything like that power level - depends on blade loading. Unless you are going to seriously load the saw, you might consider just using it with an existing outlet. You'll know that approach won't work if the breaker trips too often.

Use a short (or heavy, or both) power cord to minimize voltage drop / motor heating (whatever you do).
 
The caps will die long before the bearings, which will die long before the windings.

Make sure the caps are suitably rated if you go for the higher voltage.
 
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