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The discussion centers around the method of rearranging derivatives and integrating both sides to derive new equations, particularly in the context of differential equations and their applications in circuits. Participants explore the concept of separation of variables and seek literature or explanations regarding its motivation and methodology.

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  • One participant describes a classroom experience involving the rearrangement of a derivative related to instantaneous current in a circuit and expresses interest in understanding the underlying principles and literature on this method.
  • Another participant identifies the method as "separation of variables," noting its common teaching in ordinary differential equations (ODE) classes and calculus books, but mentions a lack of resources on its motivation.
  • A participant acknowledges their limited exposure to the topic, indicating they are just beginning vector calculus and will be taking differential equations next semester.
  • One participant elaborates on the concept of differential equations, providing an example related to an RC circuit and detailing the steps involved in solving it through integration.
  • A later reply expresses gratitude for the clarification and indicates a growing understanding of differential equations, suggesting that the upcoming class will be beneficial.

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Participants generally agree on the identification of the method as separation of variables and its relevance to differential equations, but there is no consensus on the availability of literature that explains the motivation behind the method.

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Some participants note their current educational status, which may limit their familiarity with the topic. The discussion also reflects varying levels of understanding regarding differential equations and their applications.

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Students beginning their studies in differential equations, educators looking for teaching resources, and individuals interested in the mathematical methods used in physics and engineering contexts.

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I've taken differential and integral calculus, and have a fair understanding of the material at this point. Last semester I had a professor show something in class that I feel is a pretty basic idea, I just haven't thought about working things in such a way.

He put a derivative on the board such as the one for instantaneous current in a circuit. He went on to say "you may have not seen this before or knew that you are allowed to do this" and rearranged the formula to then integrate both sides and end up with a new equation.

It is this method I'm interested in. I wonder if there is any material out there that explains this way of rearranging a derivative for example and coming up with new equations by integrating both sides, it's a newish idea to me and want to read more about how or why that works, the motive of it.

I haven't had much luck searching for any literature on it, maybe I don't know how to phrase the search term well enough.
 
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It's called separation of variables and is taught in any ODE class, and sometimes toward the end of calculus books. I don't know where you could read about the motivation though, but how to do it, for sure.
 
Thanks, this explains why I don't know much about it; I'm just now starting vector calculus, am taking Diff. Eq. next semester.

I have a name to go by now, separation of variables, thanks!
 
This sounds to me like he solved a differential equation.

Differential equations are equations involving the derivatives of an unknown function, often with some initial or boundary conditions, and solving them means to find the unknown function that fits the additional conditions.

For example, I would suspect your teacher did something like that (this is the differential equation for an RC circuit with no input voltage, like a discharging capacitor):
<br /> R\frac{dQ}{dt} + \frac{Q}{C} = 0 \\<br /> R\frac{dQ}{dt} = -\frac{Q}{C} \\<br />
divide by Q: \frac{1}{Q}\frac{dQ}{dt} = -\frac{1}{RC}\\<br />
integrate both sides: \int_{t_0}^{t}\frac{1}{Q}\frac{dQ}{dt}dt = \int_{t_0}^{t}-\frac{1}{RC}dt
use chain rule: \frac{1}{Q}\frac{dQ}{dt} = \frac{d}{dt}(\ln(Q))\\<br /> \int_{t_0}^{t}\frac{d}{dt}(\ln(Q))dt = \int_{t_0}^{t}-\frac{1}{RC}dt = -\frac{t-t_0}{RC}
use Fundamental Theorem of Calculus:\int_{t_0}^{t}\frac{d}{dt}(\ln(Q))dt = \ln(Q)-\ln(Q_0) = \ln(\frac{Q}{Q_0})

so \ln(\frac{Q}{Q_0}) = -\frac{t-t_0}{RC}
Q = Q_0e^{-\frac{t-t_0}{RC}}
 
thanks Boorglar! I will work through this when I have some time later, this is starting to give me a bit of a grasp of differential equations, seems like the diff eq class will be very useful!
 

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