Classical Looking for simple materials for calculus of variations

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on resources for learning the calculus of variations, particularly for applications in physics. The book "Mathematical Methods for Physicists" by Arfken is mentioned as a potential resource, though its depth may vary based on individual needs. The Dover book by Elsgolc is recommended as a simpler alternative. Additionally, "Landau Lifshitz vol. 1" and "Goldstein Classical Mechanics" are cited as practical physics texts that cover the calculus of variations, while "Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics" by Gerald Sussman is suggested for a deeper understanding of the underlying concepts.

PREREQUISITES
  • Basic understanding of calculus and differential equations
  • Familiarity with classical mechanics principles
  • Knowledge of mathematical methods used in physics
  • Ability to interpret mathematical symbols and perform calculations
NEXT STEPS
  • Read "Mathematical Methods for Physicists" by Arfken
  • Explore "Calculus of Variations" in the Dover book by Elsgolc
  • Study "Landau Lifshitz vol. 1" for practical applications in physics
  • Investigate "Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics" by Gerald Sussman for deeper insights
USEFUL FOR

Students and professionals in physics, particularly those seeking to understand the calculus of variations for practical applications in mechanics and theoretical physics.

Haorong Wu
Messages
419
Reaction score
90
Hi, there. I have not systematically learned the calculus of variations. I would like to learn it now. Are there simple materials for the purpose of learning how to do the calculation in physics? No need for deeper consideration in mathematics.

Is Mathematical methods for physicists by Arfken sufficient?

Thanks in advance.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
caz said:
Arfken is fine. The real question is does it go into enough detail for YOU?

I always liked the Dover book by Elsgolc
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0486457990/?tag=pfamazon01-20
Thanks! I will try Arfken's book first. If that is not enough, I will consult Dover's book.
 
I've always learned calculus of variations directly from one of the physics books and found it to be adequate at a physicist's level (ability to push symbols and calculate). I learned it from Landau Lifshitz vol. 1 from the principle of least action calculation there. Goldstein Classical mechanics has a more verbose version of the same derivation. But beware that all those derivations are iffy.

For more subtle explanations of what is really going on (which is important but maybe not needed on the first run), you can consult the "structure and interpretation of classical mechanics" by Gerald Sussmann. What I found out was that a lot of the important subtleties are swept under the rug due to time in the typical physics course, but gerald sussman really emphasizes those.
 
i am self learning physics. have you ever worked your way backwards again after finishing most undergrad courses? i have textbooks for junior/senior physics courses in classical mechanics, electrodynamics, thermal physics, quantum mechanics, and mathematical methods for self learning. i have the Halliday Resnick sophomore book. working backwards, i checked out Conceptual Physics 11th edition by Hewitt and found this book very helpful. What i liked most was how stimulating the pictures...

Similar threads

  • · Replies 26 ·
Replies
26
Views
6K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
5K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
Replies
9
Views
4K
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
4K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
4K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
4K