Lorentz covariance and Noether's theorem

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between Lorentz covariance and Noether's theorem, particularly regarding the conserved quantities associated with symmetries in special relativity. Participants explore the implications of Lorentz transformations on physical equations and the Lagrangian, as well as the resulting conservation laws.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the relativity postulate implies invariance under Lorentz transformations, suggesting a continuous symmetry and a corresponding conserved quantity per Noether's theorem.
  • Another participant claims that the conserved quantity is angular momentum, represented as an antisymmetric tensor Jμν, and references additional discussions on the topic.
  • A further contribution emphasizes the distinction between boosts and rotations, suggesting that boosts relate more directly to the center of mass rather than angular momentum.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of Poincaré invariance, which encompasses conserved quantities for spatial rotations, boosts, and energy/momentum associated with translations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the specific conserved quantities associated with Lorentz transformations, with some focusing on angular momentum while others highlight the broader implications of Poincaré invariance. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of these conserved quantities.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of terms like "boosts" and "angular momentum," as well as the implications of Poincaré invariance. Some assumptions about the relationships between these concepts are not fully articulated.

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Not sure its in the right place or not.If its not,sorry.

The relativity postulate of special relativity says that all physical equations should remain invariant under lorentz transformations And that includes Lagrangian too.
So it seems we have a symmetry(which is continuous),So by Noether's theorem,there should be a conserved quantity associated with it but I can't find what is that.
 
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The conserved quantity is the angular momentum. Relativistically it's an antisymmetric tensor Jμν. See this recent thread.
 
Bill_K said:
The conserved quantity is the angular momentum. Relativistically it's an antisymmetric tensor Jμν. See this recent thread.

Here http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/boosts.html is a discussion of the topic that focuses more directly on the boosts, as opposed to the rotations. Charles Torre's post near the bottom talks about how the distinction between boosts and rotations is not Lorentz-invariant. But putting aside this issue, I think it's fair to say that the boosts relate more directly to the center of mass, not to angular momentum, although the center of mass is part of what's described by the angular momentum tensor.

Another discussion: http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/12559/what-conservation-law-corresponds-to-lorentz-boosts
 
You should better look at Poincare invariance which results in conserved quantities for spatial rotations (angular momentum), boosts (boosts ?) and energy / momentum (time / space translation).
 

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