Lorentz Transformation Matrix: Tensor of Order 2?

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The discussion centers on whether the Lorentz transformation matrix, denoted as Λμν, qualifies as a tensor of order two and how it transforms. Participants explore the implications of its representation in tensor notation and its relationship to Special Relativity (SR) and General Relativity (GR).

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the Lorentz transformation matrix Λμν is indeed a tensor of order two, noting its dual interpretation in passive and active transformations.
  • One participant explains that in a passive transformation, the components of a vector change between coordinate systems, while in an active transformation, a new vector is defined using the transformation matrix.
  • Questions arise regarding whether the tensor nature of the Lorentz transformation implies a covariant formulation and if it suggests a unification of SR and GR.
  • Another participant argues that SR is a special case of GR, applicable in flat spacetime, and that the use of tensor notation does not alter the underlying theory.
  • It is mentioned that any physical theory can be expressed in tensor notation, but this does not fundamentally change the theory itself.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the Lorentz transformation matrix being a tensor and its relationship to SR and GR. There is no consensus on whether the use of tensor notation indicates a combination of the two theories.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the definitions of tensors and the implications of their mathematical formulations remain unresolved. The discussion does not clarify the extent to which tensor notation impacts the interpretation of SR and GR.

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Is the Lorentz transformation matrix Λμν a tensor of order two and does it transform like a tensor ?
 
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Ben Geoffrey said:
Is the Lorentz transformation matrix Λμν a tensor of order two and does it transform like a tensor ?

Yes, but it's a little subtle. A transformation matrix simultaneously has two different interpretations:

  1. As a "passive" transformation: If you have a vector V and its components in one coordinate system are V^\mu, then its components in a second coordinate system (related to the first through a Lorentz transformation) will be given by: V^\nu = \sum_\mu \Lambda_\mu^\nu V^\mu.
  2. As an "active" transformation: If V is one vector, then we can defined a second, boosted vector V' via: (V')^\nu = \sum_\mu \Lambda_\mu^\nu V^\mu.
The distinction is a little subtle: In the first case, you have the same vector described in two different coordinate systems, and in the second case, you two different vectors described in the same coordinate system.

Viewed as an active transformation, \Lambda_\mu^\nu is a tensor.
 
Thank you for that. I have another question. If its a tensor then can we say its written in covariant formulation ? Is there anything like a GTR formulation of STR ?
 
Sir my question is more along the lines of we write GTR in tensor notation right ? so if we write Lorentz transformation matrix in tensor notation does it mean we've combined STR and GTR and written it as one theory ?
 
Ben Geoffrey said:
Is there anything like a GTR formulation of STR ?

Ben Geoffrey said:
if we write Lorentz transformation matrix in tensor notation does it mean we've combined STR and GTR and written it as one theory ?

STR and GTR are one theory. STR is just the special case of GTR for which spacetime is flat. This is true regardless of what notation you use. You can do GTR without using tensor notation (though it's a lot more tedious).
 
Ben Geoffrey said:
Sir my question is more along the lines of we write GTR in tensor notation right ? so if we write Lorentz transformation matrix in tensor notation does it mean we've combined STR and GTR and written it as one theory ?

You can formulate any theory of physics (including Newtonian physics) as a tensor theory, as far as I know. You don't really change the theory when you change the mathematical formulation. SR in tensor notation is still SR.
 

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