Mach's Principle and Equivalence

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The discussion centers on Mach's Principle and its implications for inertia, particularly whether nearby massive objects can modify the inertia of a test mass in a directionally dependent manner. The scope includes theoretical considerations and interpretations of gravitational theories.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant argues that if Mach's Principle is the root cause of inertia, then the presence of a nearby massive object should lead to anisotropic inertia, affecting the test mass's reaction to acceleration based on direction.
  • Another participant counters that Mach's Principle does not necessarily imply anisotropic inertia, referencing tensor scalar theory and the Brans Dicke theory, where local inertial mass is determined by a scalar field without directional dependence.
  • A participant questions the implications of non-uniform cosmic density on the potential for Mach's Principle to cause directional differences in inertia, suggesting that such differences might exist under certain conditions.
  • Further clarification is provided that if the Equivalence Principle holds, the presence of masses in the universe determines the inertial frame of reference, but does not affect the laws of motion apart from tidal forces.
  • It is reiterated that in the Brans Dicke theory, inertia remains isotropic in a freely falling frame, supporting the idea that Mach's Principle does not necessarily involve anisotropic inertia.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of Mach's Principle for inertia, with no consensus reached on whether nearby masses can lead to directional differences in inertia. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the relationship between Mach's Principle and anisotropic inertia.

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Limitations include assumptions about cosmic density uniformity and the specific interpretations of gravitational theories, which may influence the conclusions drawn about inertia and Mach's Principle.

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In free space far removed from significant particulate matter, inertial reaction of a test mass will be isotropic. But if Mach's Principle is the root cause of inertia, then a nearby massive object should modify the inertia of such a test mass so that its reactance to acceleration will be directionally dependent, that is, the test mass will exhibit less reactionary force when accelerated toward the massive object and a greater reaction when accelerated in the opposite direction. Convention has it that the inertia of the test remains isotropic but the directional reactance is due to the G field of the nearby massive body. Why is it incorrect to argue that the nearby mass is actually modifying the inertia of the test mass a la Mach since equivalence precludes the distinquishing of G forces from Inertial forces?
 
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Mach's principle does not necessarily involve anisotropic inertia.

In tensor scalar theory, such as the Brans Dicke theory, a scalar field \phi, coupled covariantly to the matter in motion in the rest of the universe, determines local inertial mass, that is the value of the particle mass, not a direction of any anisotropic inertial forces.

\Box^2 \phi = 4\pi\lambda T^{\sigma}_{\sigma}

As rest mass, as measured by comparison with a standard mass, is constant, this variation reveals itself as a variation in G (= \phi^{-1}) instead. (As only GM can be measured in any Cavendish-type experiment)

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Garth - thanks for the reply - but if cosmic density were not uniform on the large scale, for example if there were an imbalance caused by a large galactic concentration somewhere in the universe - then how does one know that Mach's principle will not lead to a directional difference in the inertia of local particles?
 
yogi said:
Garth - thanks for the reply - but if cosmic density were not uniform on the large scale, for example if there were an imbalance caused by a large galactic concentration somewhere in the universe - then how does one know that Mach's principle will not lead to a directional difference in the inertia of local particles?

It might, but it depends on the type of Machian gravitational theory being proposed.

If the Equivalence Principle holds then the presence of masses in the rest of the universe determines the inertial frame of reference. Once in an inertial frame the laws of motion are completely unaffected by the presence of those masses apart from tidal forces.

The Brans Dicke theory includes the scalar field in such a way that the Equivalence Principle still holds:

{T_{M}}^{\mu}_{\nu}_{;\mu} = 0.

So in the Brans Dicke theory inertia is isotropic in a freely falling frame. As I said, Mach's Principle does not necessarily involve anisotropic inertia.

Garth
 
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