Magnetic flux through a rotating bar

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of magnetic flux through a rotating bar and the induced electromotive force (emf) associated with it. Participants explore the theoretical and practical implications of magnetic flux changes in a uniform magnetic field, particularly in relation to examples from a textbook.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the magnetic flux is changing when the magnetic field is uniform, suggesting that the area, angle, and magnetic field are constant.
  • Another participant proposes that the area "swept by" the rotating bar is changing, which may contribute to the variation in magnetic flux.
  • A later reply expresses confusion about the relationship between the definition of magnetic flux and its variation over time, indicating a lack of clarity on how these changes are accounted for in the context of the rotating bar.
  • Participants reference a previous example involving a sliding bar on rails to draw parallels with the rotating bar scenario, specifically mentioning the formula for induced emf.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of the changing magnetic flux. There are competing views regarding the factors contributing to this change, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the area and the uniformity of the magnetic field, as well as the mathematical steps involved in relating magnetic flux to induced emf.

Baptiste Debes
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Hello everyone,
My question is between theorie and practical (so I'm still wondering if it's the right place). I'm reading Serway and Jewett. There's an example about the magnetic flux through a rotating bar and so and induced emf. I understand this emf will be equal to the the opposite of the variation of magnetic flux with respect to the time. But here, as you may see in the picture, B is uniform. (Hoping I can post this kind of picture, I'll delete it straightaway if not)
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So why is the flux changing ? The area (assuming there is one ?), angle and B field are constant. They're actually using a result coming from a previous example : the sliding bar on two rails with a resistance R between and immerged in a uniform magnetic field. This result is that EMF = -Blv (with l the length of the bar and v its speed). I understood this. But I don't get it when they're using it for the rotating bar saying dEMF = Bvdr.

Many thanks,

Baptiste Debes
 
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Baptiste Debes said:
So why is the flux changing ?
The area "swept by" the bar is changing.
 
Ok, I understand, but this area is the same and B is uniform. When you take definition of magnetic flux and than its variation with time I don't see mention of this kind of change.

Thank you for the time you're giving to me
 

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