Magnetic Force direction on a charged particle moving parallel to a wire

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the direction of the magnetic force on a charged particle moving parallel to a current-carrying wire. Participants are exploring the application of the right-hand rule in determining the magnetic field direction and the resulting force on the particle.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the right-hand rule to determine the magnetic field direction and the force on the charged particle. There are questions about which specific right-hand rule to apply and how to accurately find the direction of the force at the particle's location.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts to apply the right-hand rule and expressing confusion about the directions involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the magnetic field direction, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct application of the rules.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of differing interpretations of the magnetic field direction based on the current's orientation in relation to the wire, highlighting potential assumptions that may affect understanding.

Devs

Homework Statement


upload_2017-10-29_15-31-37.png


Homework Equations


The right hand curl rule gave me the counterclockwise direction for the magnetic field but I am confused about how is it going to work for the particle. Thanks

The Attempt at a Solution

 

Attachments

  • upload_2017-10-29_15-31-37.png
    upload_2017-10-29_15-31-37.png
    10.6 KB · Views: 1,740
Physics news on Phys.org
By using the right hand rule for the magnetic field from the wire, you need to determine which direction that the magnetic field ## \vec{B} ## points at the position of the particle. You then need to compute the direction of the force ## \vec{F}=Q( \vec{v} \times \vec{B} ) ## using the right hand rule for the vector cross product.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Devs
Charles Link said:
By using the right hand rule for the magnetic field from the wire, you need to determine which direction that the magnetic field ## \vec{B} ## points at the position of the particle. You then need to compute the direction of the force ## \vec{F}=Q( \vec{v} \times \vec{B} ) ## using the right hand rule for the vector cross product.

Thanks for your answer. I tried doing that and I am not able to get the direction at the point at which the particle is. Lastly, which right hand rule do we use to find the force? (Fleming's or the other right hand rule)
 
Devs said:
Thanks for your answer. I tried doing that and I am not able to get the direction at the point at which the particle is. Lastly, which right hand rule do we use to find the force? (Fleming's or the other right hand rule)
For a wire, I always remember the ## B ## field direction as being clockwise (pointing down on the right side) when the current is into the paper=I really don't use a right hand rule for it. You need to translate that when the wire is running along the paper.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Devs

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
959
Replies
7
Views
3K
Replies
34
Views
2K
Replies
12
Views
2K
Replies
14
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
2
Views
1K