Magnetic properties of electrons

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the magnetic properties of electrons, exploring concepts such as electron spin, magnetic moments, and the conditions under which materials exhibit magnetism. Participants examine the relationship between static charges and magnetic fields, as well as the implications of paramagnetism in molecules.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that electrons possess a magnetic moment due to their spin, which is distinct from classical rotation.
  • There is a question regarding why only currents create magnetic fields, with one participant arguing that static charges can also produce magnetic fields.
  • One participant inquires whether the magnetic quantum number relates to electron spin and suggests that magnetic orbital theory could determine a molecule's magnetism.
  • A participant questions if a paramagnetic charge would generate magnetic field lines when stationary, drawing a parallel to electric field lines.
  • Another participant clarifies that in molecules, both spin and orbital angular momentum contribute to magnetism, with unpaired electrons in paramagnetic materials leading to individual magnetic fields that may cancel out in bulk materials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between static charges and magnetic fields, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding this aspect. There is also a lack of consensus on the implications of electron spin and its relation to magnetic properties in different contexts.

Contextual Notes

Some statements depend on specific definitions of terms like "magnetic moment" and "paramagnetism," and the discussion does not resolve the complexities of how these concepts interact in various materials.

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my textbook says that electrons have a basic characteristic of magnetism just like charge and mass. this magnetic property in some materials adds up to result in a permanent magnet and in some others nullifies each other. how does it really occur? moreover if electrons have magnetic properties why can only currents create magnetic fields? why can't a static charge create a magnetic field?
 
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Yes, electrons have a magnetic moment which comes from the "spin" of the electron. It's not spinning in the geometric sense (of having parts that rotate around a center), but it does have an angular momentum. It's a fact of the universe which can't be explained with classical (non-quantum) physics.

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moreover if electrons have magnetic properties why can only currents create magnetic fields?
That's not correct. You can have a magnetic field with no current.
 
when you are talking about the spin of the electrons... are you talking bout the magnetic quantum number? then i guess paramagnetism will help me to decide whether a molecule is magnetic or not through the magnetic orbital theory...

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btw if i find a charge is paramagnetic will it generate magnetic field lines when kept stationary just like electric field lines?
 
I was just talking about a lone electron, since you didn't mention molecules in your original post. In a molecule, you have both the spin and orbital angular momentum of the electrons contributing to the magnetism. Paramagnetic materials have electrons which are unpaired, so each atom will have some magnetic field. But the direction of the spin and orbit will be random for each atom, so for a bulk material, the magnetism cancels out. But an external field will cause the spins and orbits to line up and create an induced field.
 
thanks... for the help...
 

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