Magnetic Vector Potential Around a Wire Carrying Current

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of magnetic vector potential \(\vec A\) and its visualization around a straight wire carrying a constant electric current. Participants explore theoretical aspects, references to literature, and the implications of the magnetic vector potential in the context of electromagnetic fields.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in visualizing the magnetic vector potential field around a current-carrying wire and seeks clarification.
  • Another participant references specific equations from Fitzpatrick's lectures to illustrate the non-uniqueness of the magnetic vector potential and mentions a gauge condition.
  • A follow-up question is posed regarding the Lagrangian of a charged particle in an electromagnetic field, with uncertainty expressed about the sign of the potential term.
  • The same participant later finds a reference that appears to clarify their earlier question about the Lagrangian formulation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion includes multiple viewpoints regarding the magnetic vector potential and its implications, but no consensus is reached on the visualization or the specifics of the Lagrangian formulation.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific equations and conditions from external sources, indicating that their understanding may depend on those definitions and contexts. There is also uncertainty regarding the correct formulation of the Lagrangian in relation to static and changing electromagnetic fields.

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Until about ten minutes ago I had never heard of the magnetic vector potential \vec A, defined such that

\vec B = \nabla \times \vec A.

I am having trouble visualizing this. What would the magnetic vector potential field look like around a straight wire carrying a (constant) electric current?
 
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Thanks atyy, that's a great reference.
 
Follow up:

Is the Lagrangian of a charged particle in an electromagnetic field

L = \frac {1}{2}m( \dot x ^2 + \dot y^2 + \dot z^2 ) - q \phi + q (\dot x A_x + \dot y A_y + \dot z A_z) ?

(I'm not sure if that should be -q \phi or + q \phi.) If so, is this good for both static and changing EM fields?

Edit: oh wait, here it is. Equation 1.34. at

http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Services/Class/PHYS480/qm_PDF/chp1.pdf

All set, then.
 
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